Conceptual Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 I am going to introduce a new theory for rapid star formation from seed stars. Nuclear fusion is an highly exothermic reaction. Although gravity may be required to induce the original primal fusion, the question becomes, is gravity still needed to help sustain this highly exothermic reaction that wants to proceed forward? It is sort of like needing a match to start a fire, but once the fire is lit because it is highly exothermic the fire becomes self perpetuating if fuel is nearby. The fire will pull in the air that it needs to keep going. Here is the theory, after gravity induced fusion in the earliest seed stars, the strong self sustaining exothermic potential called fusion got hotter and hotter as it pulled more and more fuel into the fusion fire. This heat will puff out the star lowering the effects of gravity. Eventually, the fuel input geometry became a deterent to forfilling the needs of the ever increasing exothermic potential. The result were fusion eddies spinning out of the core. Fusion eddies formed because they increased the surface area for the strong self sustaining increasing nuclear potential called fusion. Same spin fusion eddies will repel causing the stable creation of a new centers of fusion. The separation of the fusion eddies will lower the competition for food or hydrogen fuel, allowing more fuel flux perimeter surface area for further eddies to form, etc.. Eventually, the amount of attracted hydrogen fuel will cause the gravity to increase until graviy begins to slowly dominate fusion potential. The result will be eddies forming within the fusion core but unable to break free from the star or maybe even the core. This periodic appearance/disappearance of eddies will result in the hotter and cooler variations at the perimeter of steady state stars, i.e, solar flares and sun spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xyph Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 I'm fairly certain only chemical reactions can be self-sustaining. If nuclear fusion was self-sustaining, I suspect all our energy would be coming from fusion reactors by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conceptual Posted October 25, 2005 Author Share Posted October 25, 2005 Fusion is highly exothermic, which means it wants to go forward. The H-bombs ran out of fuel is the reason they stop. Add more fuel nearby and the chain reaction will proceed. Within a star there is plenty of fuel neaby. It seems logical that an exothermic reaction of this magnitude should be self sustaining especially if heat output is segregated from material imput. The magnetic field direction of the sun, north and south is probably where solar heat output is maximized into space. The equatorial plane, when the planet were hotter at one time, would have created a lower thermal gradient along the equator of this making this a better zone of fuel input. The idea of self sustaining nuclear fusion an dsolar eddies is new and may go against the grain of existing theory, but it does not go against the grain of logic and common sense. We don't have fusion right now because their approach is wrong. The only fusion demonstrated thus far on earth started with a chemical solid state of lithium deuteride onto which gamma rays are focused. The plasma approach has yet to demonstrate anything more than a possible means of containment. The plasma approach uses high entropy particles whereas the fusion that works everytime uses low entropy deuterium that is contained in a chemical state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xyph Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 But within stars there is also huge and sustained temperature and pressure. If fusion is self sustaining and only dependant on the amount of fuel present once its begun, then why do stars not have far longer lifetimes than they do? There seems no reason why stellar fusion shouldn't continue well into the outer layers of stars, if this is the case, instead of moving on to the fusion of heavier and heavier elements as the core hydrogen runs out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaAotS Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 I thought it was when the core turns into iron that fusion can no longer proceed, and the star died. Blows up into a red giant shedding off its gas or something... could be wrong but it sounds familiar to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conceptual Posted October 25, 2005 Author Share Posted October 25, 2005 These observed stars are steady state stars where gravity is too high for fusion eddies to form. The answer to your question is exothermic output. Pound for pound one will get more heat from fusing hydrogen than from any of the higher atoms. These smaller hydrogen nuclei can also diffuse easier through high density. The lower heat output stemming from the fusion of higher atoms means less star fluff and more compression effects from gravity. The higher density then means the diffusion and convection of the larger atoms gets harder and harder. This further slows fusion and causes the core heat to fall further, eventually allowing gravity to collapse the star for a subsequent rapid expansion. The rapid expansion is for recyle of materials back into the galaxy. The momentum of the dynamic collaspe compresses higher atoms to where they fission down into smaller and medium atoms (if everything does not form neutron density). The rebound or bounce from the terminal state of the collapse temporarily lowers the pressure with the result being like opening a can of soda. The light atoms sort of bubble or rapidly expand for recycle into the galaxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane_alien Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 fusion is exothermic yes but the energy usually goes to pushing other atoms away and lowering the pressure. in the Hbombs only around 2% of the hydrogen fused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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