Vitesses superlumineuses et Ignatius de Loyola

[Pentcho]

Des vitesses plus grandes que 300000 km/s ont ete obtenues dans des experiences diverses:

 

http://i-newswire.com/pr43033.html

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn2796

 

Mais les experimentateurs (qui n'ont rien a voir avec la theorie de la relativite) expliquent aux zombies de la relativite pourquoi la theorie quand meme reste valide, et les zombies repetent l'explication trois fois par jour. C'est le principe d'Ignatius de Loyola:

 

"That we may in all things attain the truth, that we may not err in anything, we ought ever to hold it a fixed principle, that what I see white I believe to be black if the Romish Church define it so to be."

 

Une illustration du signal superlumineux:

 

http://gregegan.customer.netspace.net.au/APPLETS/20/20.html

 

Le signal superlumineux peut etre appele "Hamlet": il existe parce qu'on enregistre son depart et son arrivee (sinon on ne pourrait pas mesurer sa vitesse), mais en meme temps il ne doit pas exister parce qu'il est dangereux pour la theorie de la relativite. Ce signal est vraiment tres dangereux, par exemple quand on tente de resoudre Probleme 6 ("Train in a tunnel"), p. 47 (solution a la p. 53), dans

 

http://www.courses.fas.harvard.edu/~phys16/Textbook/ch10.pdf

 

Pentcho Valev

[Phi for All]

Please use a translation program. All posts and articles at SFN must be submitted in English.

[DV8 2XL]

Pentcho Valev is well documented as a crank in the Eur. J. Phys. and has a reasonable command of Standard English.

[RyanJ]

Please use a translation program. All posts and articles at SFN must[/i'] be submitted in English.

 

Rules are rules

 

Incase you are interested, here is what was said (Bad translation by the looks of it though):

 

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.scienceforums.net%2Fforums%2Fshowthread.php%3Fp%3D224976&langpair=fr%7Cen&hl=en&safe=off&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

 

Cheers,

 

Ryan Jones

[Tiger's Eye]

Here with another translation, since the google one is kinda sketchy (sry RyanJ ). Hope this is somewhat accurate. Plz correct it if i'm way off.

 

Cheers!

 

Tiger

 

Subliminal speeds and Ignatius de Loyola

 

Speeds greater than 300000 km/s have been obtained in several (diverse) experiences/experiments (?)

 

http://i-newswire.com/pr43033.html

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn2796

 

But the experimenters (who have nothing to do w/ the theory of relativity) explain to the relativity zombies (fanatics?) why the theory is still valid all the same, and the zombies repeat the explanation three times a day. It’s Ignatius de Loyala’s principle (law):

 

"That we may in all things attain the truth, that we may not err in anything, we ought ever to hold it a fixed principle, that what I see white I believe to be black if the Romish Church define it so to be."

 

An illustration of subliminal motion:

 

http://gregegan.customer.netspace.ne...ETS/20/20.html

 

The subliminal motion is also called ‘Hamlet’: it exists because one registers its departure and arrival (if not, one wouldn’t be able to measure its speed), but at the same time, it must not exist because it is dangerous for the theory of relativity. This motion is truly very dangerous, for example, when trying to resolve Problem 6 (“Train in a tunnel”), p.47 (solution on pg.53), in http://www.courses.fas.harvard.edu/~...tbook/ch10.pdf

 

Pentcho Valev

[RyanJ]

Here with another translation, since the google one is kinda sketchy (sry RyanJ )

 

No problem, Goolge is not known for its accurate translating abilities and I can only just use English!

 

Cheers,

 

Ryan Jones

[Cap'n Refsmmat]

This topic has been discussed (in English) several times before. And it was conclusively proved not to violate Relativity.

 

Though I can't tell if this person is trying to argue against relativity or agree with it, as the translation is hard to understand.

[DV8 2XL]

He is totaly against it, and has made himself a pest on several websites and in several newsgroups over the years because of it.

[5614]

What Pentcho is talking about is a well known thing in physics and is totaly within the laws of all physics including relativity.