Falsification of the Theory of Relativity

[Pentcho]

The frequency shift factor, 1+phi/c^2, that Einstein obtains in Appendix 3 in his "Relativity" and that later is confirmed experimentally, is:

 

A) Compatible with the principle of constancy of the speed of light (the c principle) and incompatible with the principle of dependency of the speed of light on the speed of source or observer (the c+v principle)?

 

B) Compatible with the c+v principle and incompatible with the c principle?

 

An argument favouring (B) can be seen in

http://www.wbabin.net/valev/valev3.htm . If this argument is correct, we have an experimental falsification of the theory of relativity (a la Popper).

 

Pentcho Valev

[5614]

If this argument is correct, we have an experimental falsification of the theory of relativity (a la Popper).

Which is why the argument is not correct.

 

Relativity has been mathematically and experimentally proven right on many many occasions.

[Phi for All]

Soon we will have a special forum called Speculations, where people with refutations to accepted theories can post their objections and, if they can provide enough validation, have their posts moved back into the Science forums.

 

Until then, there's Pseudoscience.

[bascule]

Wow, you think both quantum AND relativity are wrong. Awesome!

 

This one is hilarious...

 

http://www.wbabin.net/valev/valev8.htm

 

6. Einstein’s initial hoax:

 

(K) Principle of constancy of the speed of light.

 

[...]

 

The premise K is false

 

Care to support that statement? Or any of the statements you make anywhere on that page? That "false" premise has been verified experimentally on countless occasions. Can you point to any kind of experiment that supports your conjecture that the speed of light (in a vacuum) is not constant?

 

I can play this game too, watch:

 

A) Quantum theory is bullshit

B) Retards don't eat up bullshit with a spoon

 

The premise B is false: retards do eat up bullshit with a spoon. Therefore retards eat up quantum theory with a spoon, because quantum theory is bullshit.

 

Only retards believe in quantum theory. Are you a retard?

Therefore quantum theory is false.

 

Q.E.D.

 

Ed: In case anyone didn't see it from the other thread, this guy is apparently so pervasive a BULLSHIT propagator that someone has put together a FAQ to debunk him:

 

http://bip.cnrs-mrs.fr/bip10/valevfaq.htm

 

Reading Mr Valev’s postings to the BTK-MCA and other news groups and trying to answer all the nonsense contained in them incurs the risk of being so time-consuming that it takes over one’s professional time completely, leaving none for more profitable activities. On the other hand, not answering them incurs the even greater risk that some readers of the news group may think that his points are unanswerable and that thermodynamics, kinetics, catalysis etc. rest on as fragile a foundation as he pretends. One respondent to a posting I sent on this suggested that the best thing would be to create a FAQ page and refer readers to it whenever Mr Valev repeated any of his usual fallacies. Although in the first instance this is in itself time-consuming it will pay for itself within a month or two (or even within a week or two). Fortunately it is not as difficult as it may appear because despite Mr Valev’s huge number of postings (normally with a different subject line each time) their content is restricted to a fairly small number of fallacies. So any time a new posting appears it is not too difficult to identify which answer is appropriate.

 

I apologize to anyone (other than Mr Valev), who thinks this page is lacking in taste. Believe me, some of us have tried hard to deal calmly and rationally with his continuous outpouring of nonsense, but now there is a higher priority than being polite: ensuring that falsehoods are not accepted as truth.