Another idiot takes a shot at the hobby pyro trade!

[RyanJ]

A good friend of mine had a great pryo site all about the chemistry of explosives and pyro with good tutorials on why this stuff works and the like.

 

Some insane guy found his site and, despite the disclaimers on ever page made some explosives (Quite a lot of it too). Like that was not enough he then went on to phone the local police station and threatended to detonate the device!

 

The guy got a arrested and his computer confisgated, the forensics team found a like to my friends website and now hes in the hell for it too... his dreams of setting up a pyrotechnics company are all but useless now becuase hes being tried for assisted terrorism charges!

 

When I find out who the guy is I'll kill him, my friend was a great guy and now hes looking at a few years in jail thanks to some moron that made his site a weapon instead of a learning resource as it was intended.

 

This type of thing is what getts all us chemists (Or one day hoping to be chemists) and hobbyist chemists tared with the same brush as the stupid moron that got my friend in trouble. No-wonder people are so scared of chemists, with people like that who call themselves chemists giving us a bad rep!

Its people like this that are ruining my, and many other peoples hobbies, I belive that as long as I endanger no-one then I should be able to do what I like with the stuff I have (Although I don't becuase I like my fingers attatched to my hand where they are useful) but these people make it impossible for us to get even the simplest of chemicals here in the UK.

 

I appreciate any replies and comments you have on this because right now I'm steaming. I'd show you the site but it was taken down as evidence.

 

Cheers,

 

Ryan Jones

[Dave]

It's unfair, but unfortunately that's the way it seems to go these days. However, with the proper legal aid (and assuming the disclaimers were in place) I would think your friend might get away with it. That being said, I don't know enough about the law in this instance to offer some concrete advice.

 

However, it underlines why we don't allow that sort of posting on SFN. We can get in serious trouble as well as you guys, so please bear that in mind before making posts on the subject.

[RyanJ]

It's unfair' date=' but unfortunately that's the way it seems to go these days. However, with the proper legal aid (and assuming the disclaimers were in place) I would think your friend might get away with it. That being said, I don't know enough about the law in this instance to offer some concrete advice.

 

However, it underlines why we don't allow that sort of posting on SFN. We can get in serious trouble as well as you guys, so please bear that in mind before making posts on the subject.[/quote']

 

Like I said his lawyer is still on the case, he after all had no part in the threat nor the production of the device.

 

Yup, I know SFN can get in trouble, I ommited the names from the post for one part of that reason

 

You'll notice a recent pyrothread in the chemistry forum, it proves how sensible most people are but then you have a moron like that who ruins it all! Like I said it sno wonder why the piblic cna think chemists are crazy people intent on blowing things up with people like that arround.

 

Cheers,

 

Ryan Jones

[bascule]

Preventing people from doing things by going after those who spread the requisite information seems silly.

[Severian]

Hmm... maybe I shouldn't post that article on how to build a nuclear device from old washing-up bottles....

[RyanJ]

Hmm... maybe I shouldn't post that article on how to build a nuclear device from old washing-up bottles....

 

LOL, there is a site that says how to build a nuclear bomb but I cannot remember the link too it

 

Cheers,

 

Ryan Jones

[insane_alien]

building the nuclear bomb is easy. getting the required materials is hard. my physics teacher told us at the beginning of higher physics "if by the end of this year you couldn't make a nuclear bomb then you've probably failed the course"

[doG]

Here's a nice site? Maybe he should have placed his site in another country that's not so paranoid of information.

[timo]

Here's a nice site? Maybe he should have placed his site in another country that's not so paranoid of information.

Wow, RyanJ is starting a thread about a friend who got into trouble running a pyro site because someone used the informations to cause trouble and you post a link to a (possibly) similar site in the very same thread. I think it takes a bit of self-esteem to do that considering that some people (like me) might find that a bit inappropriate, especially when considering that the first reply to the thread included the following:

"However, it underlines why we don't allow that sort of posting on SFN. We can get in serious trouble as well as you guys, so please bear that in mind before making posts on the subject."

 

EDIT: To be a bit on-topic, at least: I dunno what actual information your friend had on his/her pages, RyanJ. However, I think it´s a bit naive to think a "you must not use this bomb to harm anyone"-disclaimer before "how to make a bomb capable of causing a lot of harm"-instructions is going to impress anyone to say the least. We could hand out weapons to anyone who wants one, otherwise. We just need a "don´t use it to threaten or harm other people"-button on the case.

[YT2095]

I think the issue here isn`t Pyrotechnics at all (worst you`de be done for not having the correct licences) it`s that he threadtened to detonate an explosive device, so I`ve no sympathy at all for him, he should get locked in a mental home for the rest of his natural life.

your friends just a patsy, he`ll probably be charged with a much lesser offence than terrorism!

else any kid that`s ever taken appart a firework or played with matches would get busted too!

 

Athiest, I see no harm with that link, it is purely Pyro, we`ve said as much here on SFN in various post`s/threads. we Also have a policy against hazardous synths already in place, with STAFF punishment long before the Law gets you! )

[RyanJ]

I think the issue here isn`t Pyrotechnics at all (worst you`de be done for not having the correct licences) it`s that he threadtened to detonate an explosive device' date=' so I`ve no sympathy at all for him, he should get locked in a mental home for the rest of his natural life.

[/quote']

 

Definatly.

 

The fact was it did say that all ifnromaiton on the site was never to be used so he may get off with a less charge like you said.

 

On update note, the information I have had suggests that the person who threadtened to blow up the police station got a life sentance I think. (Attempted mass murder due to the fact he could have killed ~150 people in the building). My friends case is still running however it looks like he may get off with little or no charge!

 

Cheers,

 

Ryan Jones