sunspot Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 I would like to present a new model for the brain. If we look at evolution the highest animals have the most cerebral matter. This is the brain matter at the highest potential. This can be deduced from the branching structures of neurons. The fine branches imply higher curvature and therefore higher surface tension. This surface tension is indirectly related to their surface potential. The core of the brain at the top of the brain stem is much older in the evolutionary sense and represents brain matter at a lower potential. Between the brain's core another potential exist; with the body. For example, if andreniline is release into the body, the potential between the core and the body increases, which in turn, increases the potential to cerebral matter. The result is a higher flux of neuron energy output going into the body. The core of the brain can alter the potential between itself and the body and/or between itself and the cerebral matter. It effects the potential of the body via glands and the blood supply. While its effects the potential within the cerebral matter via the ventricles and the cerebral spinal fluid. The natural potential between the core and the cerebral keeps at least some neurons firing at all times. Within this constant energy flux, from cerebral to core, the ego appeared and has an impact on the potential between the cerebral, core and body via memory and will power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokele Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 If we look at evolution the highest animals have the most cerebral matter. Incorrect. There are no "higher" or "lower" animals. Large brains occur more often in endotherms such as mammals and birds, but these groups a trivially important compared to much more successful groups such as beetles. Mokele Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bascule Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 Within this constant energy flux, from cerebral to core, the ego appeared and has an impact on the potential between the cerebral, core and body via memory and will power. Best not to go mixing folk psychology with cognitive science Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edtharan Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 Also it is only from our perspective that we are the most evolved animal. All animals that are alive today are equaly evolved, just evolved for a different environment than we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 And a sperm whale may have a brain as large as our body, but you never see a "sWhale" on SFN, do you? (Of course, internet usage is not necessarily "highly evolved" so much as "well adapted to the tools of the trade") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bascule Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 And a sperm whale may have a brain as large as our body, but you never see a "sWhale" on SFN, do you? The correlation you need to be looking for is a logarithmic relationship between brain mass and body mass. Normalized against the rest of simians the human brain is 6 times larger than it's "supposed" to be given our body size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunspot Posted November 28, 2005 Author Share Posted November 28, 2005 I think the highest or most evolved animal is at the top of the food chain. Humans eat all the other animals including beetles. If certain humans were not stopped they would hunt and kill all the large preditors for sport and destroy the narrow ecosystems of more dependant animals. Irregardless, there should be a potential between the cerebral and the brain stem since the cerebral evolved last. The shear amount of neuron firing in the cerebral and the axum bundling within the center of the brain outlines the direction of current within the brain. From the brain stem, nervous tissue the goes into the body. Again these are axums going into the body from higher to lower potential. If one changes the blood potential the potential between the nervous tissue and the blood supply will change. This will change the potential seen by the center of the brain and alter its potential with the cerebral. The cerebral matter appears to be drained by the potential. This makes neurons fire and allows continuous consciousness. Although the brain is drained, the neuron recover quickly. Sleep allows the cerebral potential to increase again creating a potential for the forward integration of memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokele Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 I think the highest or most evolved animal is at the top of the food chain. Humans eat all the other animals including beetles. If certain humans were not stopped they would hunt and kill all the large preditors for sport and destroy the narrow ecosystems of more dependant animals. So the most highly evolved species is malaria, which has killed more humans than any other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashennell Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 I want to try and disect your post to try and get at what you are talking about. I would like to present a new model for the brain. If we look at evolution the highest animals have the most cerebral matter. As others have suggested, highest or most evolved dosn't make sense. the sucesses of evolution are those species that are closely adapted to survival in their niche.Our general problem solving skills or 'intelligence' is just one solution the the survival problem. This is the brain matter at the highest potential. What do you mean by potential? potential energy, membrane potential or some other potential ? what potential would the different forms of non-brain matter be at? This can be deduced from the branching structures of neurons.The fine branches imply higher curvature and therefore higher surface tension. This surface tension is indirectly related to their surface potential. The branching structures of neurons? Do you mean dendritic structure or axonal branching. different types of neurons within the brain have very different branching patterns and these patterns are reasonably similar between speicies. So what particular neuron types are you talking about, local circuit neurons, cortical pyramidal neurons, granular neurons, thalamic relay neurons? What do you mean by higher curvature, I really dont get that, parhaps you could expand on this. You use the term surface potential - I assume you mean the resting potential of a neuron - the electronic gradient between the intracellular and extracellular spaces. The core of the brain at the top of the brain stem is much older in the evolutionary sense and represents brain matter at a lower potential. Are you still talking about surface (resting) potential? Or are you now refering to some kind of behavioural potential? If you are talking about the physiological resting potential then this statement is not true. Between the brain's core another potential exist; with the body. For example, if andreniline is release into the body, the potential between the core and the body increases, which in turn, increases the potential to cerebral matter. The result is a higher flux of neuron energy output going into the body. This potential word keeps cropping up! It kinda feels like you are trying describe a theory of the brain in terms of a function of one variable - potential. Can you elaborate a little on this theory and perhaps provide a concrete definition of brain potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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