Daecon Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Are Amyl Nitrate and Amyl Nitrite two different chemicals? Some sources say they are and some say they aren't. Which is which, and why is there a difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanJ Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Are Amyl Nitrate and Amyl Nitrite two different chemicals? Some sources say they are and some say they aren't. Which is which' date=' and why is there a difference?[/quote'] They are different yes: Amyl Nitrate has the formula [ce]C5H11NO3[/ce] Amyl Nitrite has the formula [ce]C5H11NO2[/ce] so they are definatly different The postfix ite normally means there is 1 less Oxygen atom present than the normal and ths the Oxidation state of the Oxygen(s) in the compound are greater Cheers, Ryan Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woelen Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 There are a number of nitrogen/oxygen groups in organics: nitrate = -O-NO2 nitrite = -O-NO nitro = -NO2 E.g. CH3-ONO is a gas, called methylnitrite CH3NO2 is a colorless oily liquid, called nitromethane. The compound CH3-O-NO2 is called methylnitrate. This is a VERY unstable compound, really hard to synthesise (if at all possible). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daecon Posted December 13, 2005 Author Share Posted December 13, 2005 Ah, I see. Thanks. Does this mean they have different physiological effects, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanJ Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Ah' date=' I see. Thanks. Does this mean they have different physiological effects, then?[/quote'] They are different so the odds are it will have a different effect because the compounds will not behave the same way For example there are isomers of a lot of the hydrocarbons with the same formula but different internal bond structures and these behave very differerently from the actual hydrocarbon in a lot of the cases so I presule the same applies here, especially because they have differnent formulas Cheers, Ryan Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj47 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 As far as pshycoactive effects, amyl nitrates are the inhalents commonly referred to a poppers which give a crap headrush, while amyl nitrites are not pshycoactive and are commonly used in heart medicine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daecon Posted December 14, 2005 Author Share Posted December 14, 2005 Hmm... so you if you wanted to use Nanny Ogg's angina medicine during your next liason with the hunk down the road, you'd probably be disappointed that it didn't have any effect, or worse - that it would make things a lot less... "potent"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj47 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 to throw another Spanner in the works, there`s also ALKYL NITRite/ate too (I just love being cruel this time of year, it`s so unexpected!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanJ Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 to throw another Spanner in the works' date=' there`s also ALKYL NITRite/ate too (I just love being cruel this time of year, it`s so unexpected!)[/quote'] Nothing like ruining the X-mas jot of others Also, just for reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alkyl_nitrites There are also: Butyl Nitrite, Ethyl Nitrite, Methyl Nitrite etc. Butyl Nitrate, Ethyl Nitrate, Methyl Nitrate etc. Cheers, Ryan Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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