Sayonara Posted January 2, 2006 Author Posted January 2, 2006 lolz To all my supporters: It is done. The 3.5-foot lightning-like, back-spike produced by my newest energy machine is now captured and FED BACK INTO THE ENERGY MACHINE! The following is proof that the back-spike is REAL: FACT: The 7,500-lb energy machine with a 1,200-lb rotary will not make even ONE complete turn when connected to 260 volts input. However: THE 7,500-lb ENERGY MACHINE WILL POWER THE ATTACHED 10kW PTO CONVENTIONAL GENERATOR WITH ALL LOADS, WHEN THE POWERFUL BACK-SPIKE IS FED BACK INTO THE BATTERIES AND ENERGY MACHINE. The above is CLEAR PROOF that the back-spike is REAL.
Phi for All Posted January 2, 2006 Posted January 2, 2006 From the link: Now a FANTASTIC PRACTICAL DEMONSTRATION will be done in the Immediate Future.Never trust a man who puts the words "immediate future" in title case. I saw him touting this machine on the Tonight Show when Johnny Carson was still hosting.
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted January 2, 2006 Posted January 2, 2006 Wait, was that exasperatedclaims.com or josephnewman.com? I can't tell.
JohnB Posted January 3, 2006 Posted January 3, 2006 I can only assume that you've all seen schematics of this device. Or that you have seen it in operation, tested it and therefore know it to be a fraud. Or do you believe it a fraud because you know it can't work? An over unity device cannot work if our theories and maths are correct, are you so sure that they are?
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted January 3, 2006 Posted January 3, 2006 It's hard to believe a website that both goes against current science and is so amateurishly written.
Sisyphus Posted January 3, 2006 Posted January 3, 2006 Well he should certainly apply for a patent, then! The energy crisis is solved!
bascule Posted January 3, 2006 Posted January 3, 2006 Ooh boy, can't wait to get me one of these, it will look awesome next to my immortality bracelets
JohnB Posted January 3, 2006 Posted January 3, 2006 Well he should certainly apply for a patent, then! If you had read past the first few lines, you would have seen that he's been trying to get one for some years. Cap'n, are you suggesting that the veracity of information is proportional to how pretty a website is? I'm fully aware that what he appears to present goes against current thought. I'm just not as convinced as you that current thought is as accurate as it could be. Can it hurt to have a look? After all, current theories could be wrong.
YT2095 Posted January 3, 2006 Posted January 3, 2006 I can only assume that you've all seen schematics of this device. actualy I haven`t seen one Schematic of the thing at all yet, I went there specificaly for that reason as text alone seems a little vague, but then again, that`s probably the whole idea, Make it Sound convincing whilst not comitting yourself to specifics!
Sayonara Posted January 3, 2006 Author Posted January 3, 2006 Well he should certainly apply for a patent, then! The energy crisis is solved! Look here for his humorous account of the "Patent battle" (AKA him being told "no"): http://www.josephnewman.com/History_-_Patent_Battle.html
Phi for All Posted January 3, 2006 Posted January 3, 2006 I can only assume that you've all seen schematics of this device. Or that you have seen it in operation, tested it and therefore know it to be a fraud.Here is the basic concept, as he presented it to an audience on the Tonight Show (must have been 20 years ago): Newman noticed similarities in electromagnetic fields and a gyroscope's tendency to resist being pushed over. He decided to combine the two, making an electromagnetic pole spin like a gyroscope. He claims the resulting EM field is so powerful it can be used to oscillate a generator that puts back more power than is required to operate both the magnet and the gyroscope. None of his reproduced designs (despite millions of dollars being poured into them) have worked the way he claims (his first model is the only one he ever tries to demonstrate, and he won't let anyone examine it). He claims that he won't reveal his secrets until the US Patent Office gives him a utility patent (they aren't required to even look at it because it violates the laws of thermodynamics). My problem with it is this: he has taken millions of dollars from investors to reproduce his concept and has never once given demonstrable proof that he isn't feeding extra energy into his system. He has driven a car powered by his original motor around various stadia around the country but won't let anyone examine it. At this point he wouldn't need a patent to prove that he was the inventor. So why won't he release his experimental evidence, his notes and his prototype for general observation and study?
bascule Posted January 3, 2006 Posted January 3, 2006 If you had read past the first few lines, you would have seen that he's been trying to get one for some years. Alex Chiu patented his immortality bracelets! Therefore they MUST work, right? I mean, the USPTO doesn't go around giving out patents willy nilly, do they? Oh wait...
JohnB Posted January 3, 2006 Posted January 3, 2006 Thanks Phi, that is the best argument that he is full of it. Bascule, I do wonder about Patent Offices in general. I always thought that the first requirement was that the invention actually worked. Maybe they should have granted a Provisional Patent, to be confirmed in, say 3000 AD.
swansont Posted January 3, 2006 Posted January 3, 2006 Apparently the USPTO has a saying: When in doubt, let the courts sort it out. Unfortunately, they operate on a quota system — an examiner has a limited time to make an assessment. But AFAIK they are evaluating on whether an item is novel and has not been patented before, and not on whether the invention works or says it does what it claims.
Phi for All Posted January 3, 2006 Posted January 3, 2006 Bascule, I do wonder about Patent Offices in general. I always thought that the first requirement was that the invention actually worked.If you don't mind me responding, it is my understanding that the US Patent Office was so inundated with perpetual motion machine designs in the 1800s that a law was written giving them the right to turn down any request, without testing it, that even sounded like it would break the laws of nature. I think this is one of the reasons Newman tried to sue the USPTO.
JohnB Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 a law was written giving them the right to turn down any request, without testing it, that even sounded like it would break the laws of nature. Ah justice. Guilty without trial or appeal. Phi, I don't about the differences in Patent Law between Oz and the Us, but here, if he showed you the workings of the device before a patent was granted, then he would not be able to get a patent. I've no idea why, that's just the rules. If the US is similar, that may go some way towards explaining his reticence. He could also a be a charlatan scamming good people out their money too. Running the same scam for 20 odd years without being prosecuted for fraud? Seems unlikely. The above posts show an interesting problem within the USPTO. The engine is denied (rightly or wrongly) on the grounds of impossibility, where an "Immortality Bracelet" is granted? Hmmm, methinks they need to check their definition of "impossible" again.
Vinyasi Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 Newman may be simulatable in LTSpice as a legitimate motor that does not possess overunity... Both Dr. Hastings' analysis in chapter six of Newman's book...http://is.gd/newmanchap6 And Newman himself failed to account for all energy sources in the Newman device. They left out the value which a rotating magnetic field has on the Newman Coil produced by the spinning permanent bar magnet/s in the Newman device. This spinning field consolidates its energy as an amperage dominant input while the batteries consolidates their contribution as a voltage dominant input creating a sort of dipole which is maintained by virtue of the isolation between them across the mutual inductance between the coil and the spinning bar magnet's field - not unlike an isolation transformer. Under these conditions, it is possible to achieve a negative current at the battery pack to block any drainage there... http://is.gd/newman15jpghttp://is.gd/newman15asc Newman's machine produced mechanical advantage in the form of torque dominating over speed. Hence, it did not do well as an EV motor. Also, it required too much time to alter its voltage and hence alter its speed of rotation creating another hindrance to functioning as a useful EV motor. But working off of his original design, a few modifications can render his motor into an electric generator capable of supplying amps to an EV's motor and supply varying amps to modify the EV's speed... JPG screenshots of simulation...https://is.gd/evfullthrottle https://is.gd/evcruisingspeed LTSpice asc files...https://is.gd/evfullthrottleasc https://is.gd/evcruisingspeedasc References...http://is.gd/fullthrottlecurrent http://is.gd/evcruisingamps BTW, the National Bureau of Standards admits in their report to shorting out the Newman coil by connecting a resistive load in parallel to the Newman coil of lower resistance than the Newman coil. Thus, a current division circuit was established in which a greater percentage of current would want to travel the Bureau's test load's path of least resistance rather than travel the path of greater resistance through the Newman coil and, thus, invalidate the test as being a non-exclusive test of the Newman device. http://files.ncas.org/nbsreport/introduction.html
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