Cosmic Background Radiation is sum of the stars

[Kedas]

Just an idea:

Space is limited without edges like a globe surface in a 2D world.

 

If that is true isn't it possible that this background radiation is just the sum of the light from all the stars...

If light is going in any direction and it isn't changed from direction then it should end up at the same place after it traveled a long distance in space.

(like a rocket around the earth in a 2D world)

 

long waveslengths and long distances go hand in hand.

 

any reasons why this can't be possible?

[bascule]

any reasons why this can't be possible?

 

Well, for one thing, we can see the sum of the stars. It's called "The Night Sky"

 

The cosmic microwave background is the oldest light in the universe. That's the other problem.

[Kedas]

Well, for one thing, we can see the sum of the stars. It's called "The Night Sky"

If we couldn't detect it I wouldn't talk about it.

 

The cosmic microwave background is the oldest light in the universe. That's the other problem.

It traveled quote some distance so it's old so what's the problem?

Did the universe stop creating this low frequency?

[sunspot]

Something is this interesting is that microwave radiation is at the energy of the vibrational/rotational energy level of molecules. This is why it is used to cook our food, i..e, works on the water. Has anyone considered that this coincidence may have a rational reason? I can think of a number of such reasons.

 

1) maybe the microwaves stemmed from primal hydrogen molecules.

 

2) maybe the terminal product stemming from stars (small molecules) plays or played a role in its production especially with stars everywhere.

 

3) maybe dark matter, in part, is simply molecular matter generated since the beginning emitting microwave radiation.

 

4) maybe there is a natural coordination of universe evolution where the microwaves of the early expansion is there to play a role with respect to chemical matter.

[[Tycho?]]

Something is this interesting is that microwave radiation is at the energy of the vibrational/rotational energy level of molecules. This is why it is used to cook our food' date=' i..e, works on the water. Has anyone considered that this coincidence may have a rational reason? I can think of a number of such reasons.

 

1) maybe the microwaves stemmed from primal hydrogen molecules.

 

2) maybe the terminal product stemming from stars (small molecules) plays or played a role in its production especially with stars everywhere.

 

3) maybe dark matter, in part, is simply molecular matter generated since the beginning emitting microwave radiation.

 

4) maybe there is a natural coordination of universe evolution where the microwaves of the early expansion is there to play a role with respect to chemical matter.[/quote']

 

Ok, only the first of those makes the least bit of sense. Background microwave radiation has a very good explanation, one that makes way more sense than any of those.

[sunspot]

Is it coincidental that microwave ovens work on water and that water is the basis for life and that the universe has a background radiation that is tuned to the needs of the primary component of life, i.e., water?

[bascule]

We didn't even know the CMBR existed until we attempted satellite telephony and we actually tried to receive microwave signals from space using complex electronic instruments. The CMBR isn't strong enough to get through our atmosphere at any sort of intensity that would affect life processes.

[[Tycho?]]

Is it coincidental that microwave ovens work on water and that water is the basis for life and that the universe has a background radiation that is tuned to the needs of the primary component of life, i.e., water?

 

Well background microwave radiation has no effect on anything on Earth. And yes it is a coincidence, a pretty unremarkable one.

[sunspot]

Microwaves represent a nonionizing radiation, that influences molecular motions such as ion migration or dipole rotations, but not altering the

molecular structure.http://www.iupac.org/publications/pac/1999/71_04_pdf/fini.pdf#search='microwaves%20and%20chemistry'

 

The data for water at 0.2cm wavelength or the maxima for the background cosmic microwaves is at http://physics.nist.gov/cgi-bin/MolSpec/frequencies.pl?triatomics=H2O&lowerfreq=150&upperfreq=200&units=GHz.

 

The wavelength used for microwaves ovens is set by standard at 12.3cm (same ref as top paragraph). The background microwave radiation maxima is hotter than that, being at 0.2 cm This suggests a higher level microwave source such as could stems from the perimeter of stars and which can be in tuned with small molecules including water.

[Severian]

We understand the CMBR reasonably well now. For a while after the big bang, the energy density of the universe was so big that it was very easy to create particle-antiparticle pairs from photons. In essence this made the universe opaque to photons. If a photon was emitted, it would react with omething else or turn into particle-antiparticle pairs very quickly, so the light was not abe to travel far.

 

After a while, the universe had expanded enough to lower the energy density so that collision with other particles became rarer and there was not enough energy in the photon to produce the (massive) particle-antiparticle pairs. This meant that all of a sudden the universe became transparent to photons - they could travel very far without interacting.

 

The CMBR is the radiation emitted by this 'surface of last scattering'. The photons have been travelling for billions of years. This model predicts the temperature and power spectrum of the CMBR really rather well.

[sunspot]

Shouldn't the production of small polar molecules like water, stemming from stars, (animated with solar radiation) contribute a percentage of the CMBR? For example, the solar wind is full of charged particles.

[[Tycho?]]

Shouldn't the production of small polar molecules like water, stemming from stars, (animated with solar radiation) contribute a percentage of the CMBR? For example, the solar wind is full of charged particles.

 

What?

 

Ok, is it just me, or are sunspots posts totally incoherent?

[Kedas]

']What?

 

Ok' date=' is it just me, or are sunspots posts totally incoherent?[/quote']

 

Isn't he just asking if stars generate electromagnetic waves in that same spectrum now and therefore change the current CMBR.