Cap'n Refsmmat Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 Overbalanced wheels don't work. What they are supposed to do is be a big wheel with weights on long flexible rods. Somehow on one side the rods are extended, and on the other folded. Thus the leverage is supposed to keep it turning. But the weight is equal on each side, so it doesn't work.
drz Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 and someone went a step further, thinking if they could slide the weight, it would work. Hence picture half your balls sliding inward at some point to throw more weight towards the downward moving side. Anyhow, its all hooey. Maybe if you paid someone to give it a spin every 5 or 10 minutes, kinda like a price is right wheel???
snpssaini Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 Overbalanced wheels don't work. What they are supposed to do is be a big wheel with weights on long flexible rods. Somehow on one side the rods are extended' date=' and on the other folded. Thus the leverage is supposed to keep it turning.[img']http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/overbal1.gif[/img] But the weight is equal on each side, so it doesn't work. pls. visit http://www.orffyre.com there u find 143 illustrations.some of them are workable with the help of simple mechanism (which is intentionally missing). Every wheel with some weights or flexible rods or chains is not overbalanced wheel. These all are nonsense. My overbalanced wheel is so simple with simple mechanism, so everybody can make this. Pls. wait few days.
superchump Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 pls. visit http://www.orffyre.comthere u find 143 illustrations.some of them are workable with the help of simple mechanism (which is intentionally missing). Every wheel with some weights or flexible rods or chains is not overbalanced wheel. These all are nonsense. My overbalanced wheel is so simple with simple mechanism' date=' so everybody can make this. Pls. wait few days. [/quote'] You still have nothing and you won't ever have anything except some crappy designs and a nack for not understanding physics. Two weeks from now, let alone a year from now, on one will even remember who you are. If your lucky they'll call you that crazy PM guy who thought it could be done just like every other PM nuts who thinks their idea is the big one. Take a physics class hack.
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 pls. visit http://www.orffyre.com there u find 143 illustrations.some of them are workable with the help of simple mechanism (which is intentionally missing). Every wheel with some weights or flexible rods or chains is not overbalanced wheel. These all are nonsense. My overbalanced wheel is so simple with simple mechanism' date=' so everybody can make this. Pls. wait few days. [/quote'] Overbalanced wheels do not work. Both sides have equal weights, thus it does not turn. That website is probably incorrect, because I have never seen that before. The only "working" perpetual motion machine ever made was a car, but it was secretly powered by a battery.
YT2095 Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 take that design to the N`th degree in rotational speed, it would simply act as an ordinary wheel, as the weights would all extend equaly due to certrifugal force. slowing this down, wouldn`t make it work any better either, as friction in the weight jionts would play a part also then. time for a re-think I recon!
snpssaini Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 You still have nothing and you won't ever have anything except some crappy designs and a nack for not understanding physics. Two weeks from now, let alone a year from now, on one will even remember who you are. If your lucky they'll call you that crazy PM guy who thought it could be done just like every other PM nuts who thinks their idea is the big one. Take a physics class hack. No problem. I don t mind. But i ll prove it.
superchump Posted August 13, 2004 Posted August 13, 2004 No problem. I don t mind. But i ll prove it. Ohhhhhh...I seriously doubt that. Just from that statement I see you know nothing about phyiscs. Good luck with your failure.
Doomcorp_1ic Posted January 24, 2005 Posted January 24, 2005 OK OK OK Wate a minut here . Im going to be the first persion to invent the machine of doom . and mine works at 128% . and for all you tards out there 64%, 50 % being balanced . 55-60% wouldnt move due to frictions. now 64% would have at the verry least 4% of extra power with nowere to go . BUT DOWN THE WHEEL awwww i guess its gona have to keep spining . HOWEVER the speed will max out and the machine will need maintnance . however the h**l you spell it i dont care DONT CORRECT ME ! The problem enlize in the generator .!?!. how important is the generator i huck up to it . because that will stop it for sure . unless i boult the pm machine on a MASSIVE scale and a tency little generator . the bigger the machine the bigger the genorator. . . . i would love to put my idea out there . so i will .... a little . ok . now it in ... never mine . wory not really gona get anything . but this. It uses a syphin effect . witch will negate the friction , okookok i dont know how to really explain it .. 1 sec
swansont Posted January 24, 2005 Posted January 24, 2005 please try not to rip off my ideas Not to worry.
Doomcorp_1ic Posted January 24, 2005 Posted January 24, 2005 i changed my mind on telling everyone how it works . untill i have it working reight here in front of me . the reall problen is time and money . its not hard to build but i need to be able to dedicate myself to the production of the perpetual motion 100%. and thats werry hard to do with a full time job. Now tell you guys the truth it only works in my mind because i dont know how to transulate it onto parers . what i really need is someone that can help with the calculations . friction.weight.rpm. thats about it . i have a way of giving my machine a machanical advantage of 50% but i dont know how to take off the friction . nor know how to find out how wutch power it is actually going to need / draw from itself . i live in windsot ont. know of anyone around me that can help ? it will work . but it combins to many forms of physic's for me to comprehend properly . like gear ratios to rpm . that i can do . but then theres other things like , friction on water in a pipe , the main and secondary axis, belt drive, and the most important part . the .,.,..,.wate a moment.. LOADING ... ... ... wont say it on the net .... i apologize to the people i anger by not saying what the part is . but all in all from what i can tell , it works but i ...
Sayonara Posted January 24, 2005 Posted January 24, 2005 You do not have a 128% efficient design: you have bad maths.
Doomcorp_1ic Posted January 25, 2005 Posted January 25, 2005 mine works at 128% . and for all you tards out there 64%, 50 % being balanced . 55-60% wouldnt move due to frictions. now 64% would have at the verry least 4% of extra Maby you just missed that ? . i juess so . sorry for confusing you ?!? but yea i did my math in 200 % rather than 100 % because its easyer to work with .. and HELLO MR FLIPPEN OBVIOUS , Ya im bad at math . how many times di i have to say that till you understant that i already know that . thats why im lookinh for healp Mr.Magoo . pleas take no offence . but seriously . dont repeat things ive already said and think its cool . im trying to invent math for something that has never been calculated this way befour . so cut me some freckin slack here . if nowone thinks outside the box we will never get anywhere . and the world would still be flat . its people like you that said flight for man is imposible . reight up until someone descovers life. then all of a sudden you knew it all along . its people like you that wouldhave hung me or burned me at the steak for saying the world is round , how ablut the invention of a car? a lightbuld ? i dont know what im suposed to say to you .. how about im sorry for trying to invent this damn machine . . . the worst part of this whole mess for me is that i dont want to even work on it .. it isnt fun . but i feal forced into doing it every waking moment of my forsaken life.. just ... GEVE ME A BREAK ! how am i suposed to calculate something that dosnt exist ! ! ! get off my back ... everyone . im sick of hearing this cant be dont that cant be done . so fine just stay out of my way .. but i could use some Help .. yes . maby even some mental help to . but i dont care . i haveto invent this machine . even if god himself couldnt stop me . (dont correct me, sure he could drop me dead, lucky for me i dont truly think he exists) sorry . for tripin out my life sucks
Ophiolite Posted January 25, 2005 Posted January 25, 2005 I propose we acknowledge two types of perpetual motion machines, with machines defined loosely. Perpetual motion machines (Type I) (always emboldened) are the true, conventional type, that would flout the laws of physics. The second type (Type II) is the perpetual motion machine(always italicised), which receives periodic inputs of external energy, either accidentally or deliberately, which keep it going. And I humbly recommend that this thread be identified as a Type II perpetual motion machine.
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted January 25, 2005 Posted January 25, 2005 how am i suposed to calculate something that dosnt exist ! ! ! Like a perpetual motion machine? its people like you that said flight for man is imposible Those people said it because of the technical limitations of the time; we say this because the elementary laws of science are against it. Those are two different things.
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted January 25, 2005 Posted January 25, 2005 And I humbly recommend that this thread be identified as a Type II perpetual motion machine[/i']. It will be locked eventually.
Doomcorp_1ic Posted January 25, 2005 Posted January 25, 2005 no you dont get it . there is no outside power no springs no bateries no rainfal . no mericals
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted January 25, 2005 Posted January 25, 2005 I know that. I'm saying that science says it can't be done. It is not a technological limitation.
Doomcorp_1ic Posted January 25, 2005 Posted January 25, 2005 thanks . for that last post . lol . science says for cant fly to .. well it did anyways , then woops . we missed that .. whats that called .. lift .. ya we knew that , we just overloked that .. yea thats it , yea
swansont Posted January 25, 2005 Posted January 25, 2005 i changed my mind on telling everyone how it works . untill i have it working reight here in front of me . the reall problen is time and money . its not hard to build but i need to be able to dedicate myself to the production of the perpetual motion 100%. and thats werry hard to do with a full time job. Shouldn't be a problem. Simply hook it up to a generator and power your house with it, and sell the excess electricity back to the power company. Aside from the lack of credibility in general from anyone claiming perpetual motion, it's more galling to hear them cry poverty (or anything similar) if they have the working device they claim. If it works, use the darned thing. Energy = money
JaKiri Posted January 25, 2005 Posted January 25, 2005 OK OK OK Wate a minut here . Im going to be the first persion to invent the machine of doom . and mine works at 128% . and for all you tards out there 64%, 50 % being balanced . I really have no idea what this means.
Sayonara Posted January 25, 2005 Posted January 25, 2005 OK OK OK Wate a minut here . Im going to be the first persion to invent the machine of doom . and mine works at 128% . and for all you tards out there 64%, 50 % being balanced . 55-60% wouldnt move due to frictions. now 64% would have at the verry least 4% of extra power with nowere to go . BUT DOWN THE WHEEL awwww i guess its gona have to keep spining . HOWEVER the speed will max out and the machine will need maintnance . however the h**l you spell it i dont care DONT CORRECT ME ! The problem enlize in the generator .!?!. how important is the generator i huck up to it . because that will stop it for sure . unless i boult the pm machine on a MASSIVE scale and a tency little generator . the bigger the machine the bigger the genorator. . . . i would love to put my idea out there . so i will .... a little . ok . now it in ... never mine . wory not really gona get anything . but this. It uses a syphin effect . witch will negate the friction , okookok i dont know how to really explain it .. 1 sec You aren't really winning me over here. Are you now saying this machine is 64% efficient? If so, it's not perpetual motion, is it?
Doomcorp_1ic Posted January 27, 2005 Posted January 27, 2005 Ok im gona start posting my status on my machine here. . im going to start it and should have blueprints in a week or so .. tell you all what , if for some reasion it dosnt work im going to post my results here , along with the week points in the machine (the parts that i cant build to their full potentual ) and ill set up a website with my documentation . i really think this will work , and about the whole science was against flight not ...... nvm here I know that.I'm saying that science says it can't be done. It is not a technological limitation. umm actually their physics were against it at the time . because as you may know .. lift didnt exist to their knowlage at the time hence why 1000's of people died jumping off cliffs with feathers on their backs ,, and h*ll no im not trying to win ou over . . . im here for the people that may be interested and may be ably to help in some way . BUT ATLAST >Lift + Thrust = flight< that was not known physics to man at the time .. we probably missed something elts on the way that will help make pm possible ... and im going to find it .. even if i destroy my life doing it .. , eventually someone will figure it out . just like flight . then no more jumping off cliff's as it were in atempts to unlock perpetual motion .. *Bombs away* (your turn to attack)
Deified Posted January 27, 2005 Posted January 27, 2005 They didn't have any principles that would necessarily exclude flight.
JaKiri Posted January 27, 2005 Posted January 27, 2005 umm actually their physics were against it at the time . because as you may know .. lift didnt exist to their knowlage at the time hence why 1000's of people died jumping off cliffs with feathers on their Not only did they not have any principles saying that it was impossible, they also had evidence that it was possible. Unless you thought that birds only came into existance recently.
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