nwaogu Posted February 7, 2006 Posted February 7, 2006 An orbiting electron around the nucleus readily absorb Energy such as light and then excites. As it excites the +ve charge of the protons makes the electron start loosing energy. it doesnt start removing the Light energy from itself because that will be against "Quatum Theory", so it waits until the total energy is drained out and then it releases them as Packets of Light energy (Quanta)and then at the same time returns to its previous orbit due to the energy lost. This is the Quatum Theory of Excited State.OK, this is one that is so simple and of course classical if you put into a hydrogen electron (in its ground state orbiting around the proton which readily absorbs energy and excite), bundles or packets of light energy (quanta) at a certain frequency f, lets say 2.5 * 10^15 Hz and the electron is in the E0 energy level of -21.8 * 10^-19 and thus excites to a greater energy level of lets say E2 of energy level lets say-5.4 * 10^-19. if the electron starts giving out the light energy as it excites, the frequency f will change from the actual frequency in which the energy was supplied since the light will be emitted in a different frequency and thus making the frequency to change (as the amount of electromagnetic radiation that passes per second through a certain point differs). This will bring a contradiction to Bohr's theory that states that E2 - E0 = hf when h is the Planck Constant (6.6 *10^-34) and f is the frequency. if f flux then either h, E2 or E0 has to flux to make the equation balanced. And we know that E2 , E0 and h cant flux because they are universal constants and thus cant flux. So f has to remain constant to make the equation have sense and which can only be constant when the electron has lost all its excess light energy given to it from an external source and thus emits them in the same frequency as it was given to it. So once it has lost all the energy and emits it in the same frequency, the energy left in it will no longer be enough to make it associated with E2 and thus it goes back to either E0 or E1 according to Niels Bohr by the pulling force of the proton (which is responsible for which the electron lost the external energy given to it). We then conclude with a theory that states that: "The Frequency f in which an external light energy was given to an electron must be equal to the frequency in which the electron must emitt it out" Hope we have convince you.
nwaogu Posted March 25, 2006 Author Posted March 25, 2006 in our idea we were only talking of external energies with frequency, fO. for those without any f read the book "The Quantum Theory of Excited State - An Extension" at http://www.lulu.com/ddnpmfng
swansont Posted March 25, 2006 Posted March 25, 2006 An orbiting electron around the nucleus readily absorb Energy such as light and then excites. As it excites the +ve charge of the protons makes the electron start loosing energy. it doesnt start removing the Light energy from itself because that will be against "Quatum Theory"' date=' so it waits until the total energy is drained out and then it releases them as Packets of Light energy (Quanta)and then at the same time returns to its previous orbit due to the energy lost. This is the Quatum Theory of Excited State.OK, this is one that is so simple and of course classical [/quote'] And wrong. Bohr's model is based on planetary orbits and while it explains quantized energy states; it gets very little else correct about atomic behavior. if you put into a hydrogen electron (in its ground state orbiting around the proton which readily absorbs energy and excite)' date=' bundles or packets of light energy (quanta) at a certain frequency f, lets say 2.5 * 10^15 Hz and the electron is in the E0 energy level of -21.8 * 10^-19 and thus excites to a greater energy level of lets say E2 of energy level lets say-5.4 * 10^-19. if the electron starts giving out the light energy as it excites, the frequency f will change from the actual frequency in which the energy was supplied since the light will be emitted in a different frequency and thus making the frequency to change (as the amount of electromagnetic radiation that passes per second through a certain point differs). [/quote'] An electron doesn't give out light energy as it excites, it absorbs it. This will bring a contradiction to Bohr's theory that states that E2 - E0 = hf when h is the Planck Constant (6.6 *10^-34) and f is the frequency. if f flux then either h' date=' E2 or E0 has to flux to make the equation balanced. And we know that E2 , E0 and h cant flux because they are universal constants and thus cant flux. So f has to remain constant to make the equation have sense and which can only be constant when the electron has lost all its excess light energy given to it from an external source and thus emits them in the same frequency as it was given to it. So once it has lost all the energy and emits it in the same frequency, the energy left in it will no longer be enough to make it associated with E2 and thus it goes back to either E0 or E1 according to Niels Bohr by the pulling force of the proton (which is responsible for which the electron lost the external energy given to it). We then conclude with a theory that states that: "The Frequency f in which an external light energy was given to an electron must be equal to the frequency in which the electron must emitt it out" Hope we have convince you.[/quote'] You seem to have stated that energy is conserved. Why does anyone need convincing of that?
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