GrandMasterK Posted February 12, 2006 Posted February 12, 2006 Doesn't have to be one thing, can be a mixture. Even something that is impractical on account of it's cost or weight.
the tree Posted February 12, 2006 Posted February 12, 2006 Diamond is the hardest, don't know about the "most indestructible" though. I can't really think how "indesctructability" could be mesured.
GrandMasterK Posted February 12, 2006 Author Posted February 12, 2006 Do we have anything you could send into the sun?
ydoaPs Posted February 12, 2006 Posted February 12, 2006 you can send anything to the sun if you have a good enough rocket.
AzurePhoenix Posted February 12, 2006 Posted February 12, 2006 Diamond is the hardest, don't know about the "most indestructible" though. I can't really think how "indesctructability" could be mesured. Hardest known substance? Yes. But diamond's brittle, and can be shattered quite easily if hit right. A fire doesn't even have to be that hot to burn a diamond. All "strong" substances are going to have there own strengths and weaknesses. Flexibility, absolute hardness, resistance to extremes of temperatures, tensile strength, chemical... erm, "inertness"? "Inertitude"? you can send anything to the sun if you have a good enough rocket.Aye, a swell way to turn anything into instant plasma
GrandMasterK Posted February 12, 2006 Author Posted February 12, 2006 alright lets try something else. What would I want to make a bunker out of to survive a direct hit from an atomic bomb?
ydoaPs Posted February 12, 2006 Posted February 12, 2006 a few metres of concrete lined with lead. put the whole thing a few miles underground. then you are safe.
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted February 12, 2006 Posted February 12, 2006 adimantium, unless they have to be real Unobtanium works better.
GrandMasterK Posted February 12, 2006 Author Posted February 12, 2006 a few metres of concrete lined with lead. put the whole thing a few miles underground. then you are safe. above ground. What's with the never ending onslaught of saracastic posts?
Klaynos Posted February 12, 2006 Posted February 12, 2006 above ground. What's with the never ending onslaught of saracastic posts? Because it depends totally on the application. And the answer to the first question is fairy dust unless it's got to be real *sigh* About 200m of reinforced concrete and a meter or two of lead should do it
Tetrahedrite Posted February 12, 2006 Posted February 12, 2006 Diamond is the hardest, don't know about the "most indestructible" though. I can't really think how "indesctructability" could be mesured. I believe boronitride or borazide (BN) is harder than diamond.
AzurePhoenix Posted February 12, 2006 Posted February 12, 2006 What's with the never ending onslaught of saracastic posts? Welcome to the forums. This particular quirk is what makes us fun and worthwhile Anyway, this thread seems to be fairly clear of the typical level of sarcasm
AzurePhoenix Posted February 12, 2006 Posted February 12, 2006 Why not jsut 200m of lead lead poisoning not to mention it's no different from just burying it; just instead of dirt and rock, you're simply buried under more lead. Anyway, how would you get it all and construct it? I very much doubt we have a bunker-material that could withstand a direct nuke and survive with only thick walls rather than mountains of shielding.
GrandMasterK Posted February 13, 2006 Author Posted February 13, 2006 what do you mean by diamond is the hardest? You said it melts easy and it breaks easy so what does hard actually mean?
AzurePhoenix Posted February 13, 2006 Posted February 13, 2006 what do you mean by diamond is the hardest? You said it melts easy and it breaks easy so what does hard actually mean? Simply put, hardness is resiliance against changing shape, the way silly putty is soft, but rocks are hard. A diamond might burn or shatter, but it will be very, very difficult to scratch or warp. The long answer is quite extensive. this wiki link will have a more in-depth explanation.
Sisyphus Posted February 13, 2006 Posted February 13, 2006 Hardness refers to resistance to permanent deformation. In other words, you can't bend, scratch, or compress diamond with pretty much anything. You can, however, break it into smaller pieces. But the pieces will still retain their shape, and you'll be able to fit them back together like a jigsaw puzzle.
akcapr Posted February 13, 2006 Posted February 13, 2006 wouldnt tungesten be the hardest to destroy?
jdurg Posted February 13, 2006 Posted February 13, 2006 wouldnt tungesten be the hardest to destroy? Not if you have a little bit of an acid available, or a high oxygen atmosphere. You can't measure "indestructability". As mentioned earlier, various things are impervious to various other things. With a nuclear explosion, there is NOTHING that is impervious to it. The temperatures generated in a nuclear explosion are MUCH greater than the boiling point of ALL known substances. Hence why everything is "vaporized". If you get nuked, you're dead. There's nothing you can do.
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted February 13, 2006 Posted February 13, 2006 Well, not really. If your wall is thick enough, the blast will dissapate before it can penetrate and kill you.
CanadaAotS Posted February 13, 2006 Posted February 13, 2006 OK then, better question. What material could you use to make this "bunker" that could have the thinnest wall and still protect you, and say radiation isn't a factor (just the force and heat of the blast).
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