swansont Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 If you had a big jar and it was just big enough to hold the Eiffel Tower the air in the jar would be heavier then the Eiffel Tower. I challenge that. Please show a calculation.
Kedas Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 Seems to be correct, I did some fast calculations and it could be right due to its big ground area and very small top. http://www.tour-eiffel.fr/teiffel/uk/documentation/structure/page/chiffres.html
Dark Photon Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 you can mesure airs mass, but you will have great difficultly measuring its weigth, as gravity isnt powerful enougth on earth to stop it diffusing significantly in three dimentions. you can however measure the pressure it applies, which i believe is around 10^5 Pa
5614 Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 If you had a big jar and it was just big enough to hold the Eiffel Tower the air in the jar would be heavier then the Eiffel Tower.It most certainly will not.
swansont Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 Seems to be correct' date=' I did some fast calculations and it could be right due to itsbig ground area and very small top. http://www.tour-eiffel.fr/teiffel/uk/documentation/structure/page/chiffres.html[/quote'] So a square container would be roughly 125 m x 125 m x 300 m = 4687500 m3, and air has a density of about 1.25 kg/m3, so that's 5.86 x 106kg. The tower's weight is given as 7300 tons, or ~6.6 x 106kg. And I didn't even insist on a triangular-pyramid-shaped glass, so that I could put the tower in upside-down, which gains about a factor of three in excluded air. Nobody said the jar had to be a cylinder
swansont Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 you can mesure airs mass, but you will have great difficultly measuring its weigth, as gravity isnt powerful enougth on earth to stop it diffusing significantly in three dimentions. you can however measure the pressure it applies, which i believe is around 10^5 Pa Once you have the mass the weight is trivial. W = mg
5614 Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 So a square container would be roughly 125 m x 125 m x 300 m = 4687500 m3' date=' and air has a density of about 1.25 kg/m[sup']3[/sup], so that's 5.86 x 106kg. The tower's weight is given as 7300 tons, or ~6.6 x 106kg. And I didn't even insist on a triangular-pyramid-shaped glass, so that I could put the tower in upside-down, which gains about a factor of three in excluded air. Nobody said the jar had to be a cylinder That is actually suprisingly close - although like you said the jar doesn't have to be a cylinder.
Kedas Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 The jar is cylinder shaped. (so forget about all other shapes) It gives you almost 8000 ton air. - It is 324m (not 300m) - 1ton=1000kg. (SI)
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