Evolution towards psychic abilities

[neo_maya]

u r talking to me !

u r talking to me ?

 

 

:flame:

 

Seriously - Aren't psychic power or extrasensory perception or mental telepathy almost the same things? I mean sure they do make different sence but ..............

 

I did say that I am the dumbest person and mentioned that if by psychic power u mean Prof X, then please don't read my posts.

And u can't blame me, I did say that I need to go to a mental hospital.........

 

I'm full of crap.

[Skye]

what happened to the gene mapping thing?

It's ready for download.

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/genome/guide/human/

[Dudde]

Sayonara3 said in post #23 :

People who confuse telepathic and psychic effects need a good slap.

 

 

also, people named sayonara need a good slap

just cause

 

I think people named neo_maya should also stop bashing themselves. Full-of-crapness may merely be uneducatedness;)

[neo_maya]

Dudde said in post #28 :

 

 

I think people named neo_maya should also stop bashing themselves. Full-of-crapness may merely be uneducatedness;)

 

 

Yeah right - they should stop bashing themselves so that others can bash them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :nono: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Though it is true - I was just trying to hide my uneducatedness by calling it crapness

[aman]

Yer a youngster so yer supposed to know a lot of crap. Us oldsters are here to turn it into wisdom. It's crap before you know it and it's crap after unless you got yer head on straight.

Just aman

[alt_f13]

Originally posted by neo_maya

I think u have all read Erich Maria Remarque's "All Quiet On The Western Front". There was this line - or something like this - when they were in the front, sometimes they would just kneel down, or jump or begin to run, only to see a splinter or a bullet pass by. That small jump or nudge just saved their life maybe for next 40 years. Does it mean that they all had these abilities? Because, maybe they just saved their lives for today but the next day he couldn't dodge the bullet. So, doesn't it mean it was just the instinct - if u live in the jungle u can sence the snakes - I have heard the beduins can smell water and sence desert storms.

 

This seems related to what I was going to say. There is such thing as psychic ability, and "extra-sensory" intuition, but not to the extent of Miss Cleo, dead talker man and the like. ("I'm hearing a D, devon, donna, dillweed." That guy is rediculous.)

 

It has been said that some animals, particularly those that enhabit the African plains, have high psychic ability. I have a feeling that psychic abilities are a very primeval set of senses, used mostly for reactionary purposes, and are manifested now in only the most simple ways. Our senses have not evolved all that much since humanities induction into the world, and are still very primitive. Why should psychic affinity be any different? It could be like our noses, compared to dogs' noses: they work, but are not all that useful at all.

 

Woman seem to have more "superhuman" like abilities than men, like the ability to see a wider spectrum of color, whilst many men are color blind. This has been proven. And it seems to that this is the case for psychic ability as well. There is a far higher number woman who claim to have psychic ability or sensations than men, publisized and otherwise, and that dead talker man does seem rather effeminate.

 

These are the reasons I strongly believe in psychic ability, and why I wouldn't trust a gypsie.

 

I am also willing to bet that psychic like abilities come from more than one set of senses. I think many telepathic type abilities come from one persons brainwaves being sensed by another person. Some people may have higher sensetivity or may transmit at higher amplitudes, which could explain why intense or obvious instances are low, but why I, say, have thought exactly what someone was about to say on several occasions.

è_é

[Sayonara]

It's so common now to use the terms interchangeably that I don't suppose it matters much.

 

"Psychic" mediums and such - the fairground types - have nothing to do with (for instance) serious experiments into telepathic communication. But because people confuse the two, the latter suffers the ill reputation of the former. I blame the movies and sloppy media-type people.

[Dudde]

everyone blames movies and media-type people.

 

which means it's probably their fault

 

Yer a youngster so yer supposed to know a lot of crap. Us oldsters are here to turn it into wisdom. It's crap before you know it and it's crap after unless you got yer head on straight.

BAH! I know everything, I'm a teenager.

[Sayonara]

Oh, and the X Files.

 

I BLAME the X Files.

[Dudde]

Sayonara³ said in post #34 :

Oh, and the X Files.

 

I BLAME the X Files.

 

you are the x files

[Sayonara]

Better that than a hippy.

[Dudde]

don't make fun of YT man, he'll come over there

[Skye]

*looks into crystal ball*

 

Sorry, it appears we won't evolve psychic ablity.

[iglak]

on the subject of reproductive abilities. seriously, how many women would be attrected to a man with psychic abilities in a civilization where people would put that man in a crazy house if he did anything with his psychic abilities. probably more than i think, but still not a lot. and if people shun him, then he will be much less likely to want to try to find a mate. the more different he is, the more different he feels, the more different he acts.

 

P.S. feel free to switch the words "man" and "woman" anywhere in the above post (and he/she, and him/her)

 

P.P.S. i have no evidence for or against this, but what i get from all information relating to witchdoctors and the like is that they are practically condemned to a life of celibacy. people go to them for help, but i don't think anyone goes to them for marriage.

[iglak]

and another thing

esp (extra-sensory perception) includes and is not limited to:

telepathy

clairvoyance

clairaudiance

precognition

retrocognition

mediumship

and the one where you can see something that happened involving an object that you touch (i forgot what it was called.)

 

but it does not include psychokinesis (the ability to alter, move, animate, and inanimate matter through thought alone)

that is a category of itself and includes telekinesis (the ability to move matter with your mind)

 

the definition of psychic is (without looking it up): having esp abilities

 

 

P.S. i found this

 

P.P.S. i have a very well thought out theory of what causes most esp, but that is not what this thread is about

[aman]

Since the limiting factor in brain size has been the size of a womans pelvis, now that we do C-sections there is no limit to the size of a brain in children anymore. There should be an evolutionary pressure towards bigger brains and maybe a large number of kids in 100 generations will have much bigger brains and also more potential and abilities. If we do have ESP then we are just on the edge of actually expressing it.

Just aman

[Searching]

I can't believe I'm about to post this. This has been a very private aspect of my life for so long... but now I want to learn more about it.

 

Where do I start?

 

All of the women in my family, way down the line, have been "gifted". I hate that word, I've always seen it as a curse. For the most part, I'm talking about precognition, with sporatic cases of "hearing" a person's thoughts. I hope I don't sound like a raving lunatic. It's really hard to find information about this - all there seems to be are a lot of Jo Jo's and Miss Cleo wannabes. Hippies and "witches" and everything else. People glorify this stuff, but when you're stuck with it yourself, it can be really confusing and depressing.

 

I guess I should start from the beginning. I’m a 25 year old female, and as I’ve mentioned, this has been passed down for generations in my family. There is no doubt in my mind that there is a genetic aspect to it. Other than this, I’m a normal woman, of slightly above average intelligence, and my bloodline is Irish. Not sure if that actually has anything to do with it, but it’s been mentioned before.

 

As a kid, I was a loner, and just plain didn’t fit in with anyone. I knew I was different, and kids didn’t let me forget it. None of the weirdness I’d known at home (My grandmother having a vision of my mother running over my sisters’ bike, and calling 2 minutes after it happened to ask about it, etc) was ever mentioned at school. We didn’t really talk about it much, it was just kind of there. My family isn’t really religious - we were made to attend Catholic Sunday School, but I was kicked out at age 12 for asking too many questions. (Long story.)

 

The thing that makes this very hard on me is that I am a woman of science. My first love was microbiology. I’ve always been a highly logical person, and non of this makes any sense, logically - yet I can’t argue with so many instances of fact. I’ve tried over and over again to rationalize many events, to no avail.

 

My boyfriend of 6 years is a Christian, and has had a really hard time dealing with my unusual abilities. I try not to use them, or at least, be quiet when things come to me - but it still weirds him out. I’ve never had any control over it. I can be driving, sitting on a bus, sleeping.. whatever - and knowledge will just come to me. It’s not pictures, it’s not a voice, its just knowledge. Sometimes, it’ll happen often, other times it’ll be weeks or months between incidents - but when it happens, it always comes true. I have no way to explain these things.

 

I was fortunate enough to have known a few others like me when I was about 15. That’s about the time that things got stronger, and I had no idea what to do about it. Meeting people like me was easy - it was almost like radar. I still have that to an extent now, but usually try to block it out. I am really bothered by some of the issues that I saw those friends go through - a lot of depression, suicidal ideations, and my friend Ben went insane. I’m not depressed, and not even close to insane, but it does worry me as a possibility.

 

I have to agree with the person who originally brought up the depression issues, as far as the abilities NOT being an advantage. I have yet to meet a person who has precognitive abilities who can actually control them. I’m not saying they aren’t out there, I just haven’t come across any yet - Though I’d like to. I’ve been doing a lot of soul searching about this lately - it’s like living two lives: the scientist, and the freak of nature. I’ve seen the two attributes as being mutually exclusive, but now I’m not so sure.

 

Back to the group of friends. I do realize that this would be a very small sample group to base any conclusions on, but we did make a few observations. We all were a lot stronger than we looked, or should be for those of us who didn’t work out at all. We also had ridiculously strong immune systems. As far as my Dr can tell, myself and my 6 year old son are both immune to strep infection. I had a serious strep infection (invasive strep A) when I was 16, and have not been infected with *anything* since. My son is in grade 1 , and has never had strep throat or an ear infection, and has only missed 1 day of school since the beginning of Kindergarten.

 

I also heal incredibly fast, and in ways that shouldn’t happen. I sustained a major back injury years ago in a car accident, and my back was a slab of scar tissue afterwards. Because of insurance issues, I was not able to get therapy in time, and a year after the accident, all of the Drs and specialists I saw about it concluded that it was permanent. 2 years after that, with no therapy, the scar tissue had all disappeared completely, and my lower back was strong enough to freak out a personal trainer. I’d instructed him that I’d need to be especially careful with my back, due to injury... yet I could do more weight on the back extension machine than any of the male bodybuilders in the gym. Also, due to a childhood UV allergy, I was blind in one eye, and extremely nearsighted in the other, with a fairly bad astigmatism. A year ago, I decided to go off my glasses and force myself to adapt. 2 weeks ago, I saw the eye dr again - I’m now only slightly nearsighted in the formerly blind eye, normal vision in the other, and the astigmatism is incredibly slight now. I don’t know enough about the eyes to know exactly what he was talking about, but he was floored at comparing the results.

 

I do not know if my immune system and healing has anything to do with the other weirdness, but it is something I’ve always wondered about. The group and I back in the day debated the evolution idea endlessly, and the immune / strength / healing would fit in with it, as far as I can tell.

 

I feel like I’m trying to find who I am, now that I’ve decided I’ll accept this. I’ve spent years trying to ignore it, hoping it’ll go away.. But an incident yesterday with it actually really benefitted me, and now I want to harness it, if possible. It was also the first time that the bf seemed a little less weirded out by it.

 

What a rant.. I’m sorry. I had to get it out of my system. If anyone out there is going through the same thing, or has any insight, I’d love to hear it. This whole “evolving” thing is a lonely business! LOL!

[Phi for All]

WOW! I don't know what... WOW!

 

I think accepting something positive that is part of yourself is always a good idea. Accept the positive and deny the negative! You denied the damage to your back, you denied the viruses that have been attacking you and everybody else for the last nine years, and you denied the damage to your eyes. Going off your glasses is the only thing really explainable to me; glasses are a crutch and allow you NOT to exercise your eyes.

 

As for your gift of insight, here and here are some linkys that may help a bit to bridge the gap between science and the Twilight Zone for you.

 

For what it's worth, this is the first time I've been in the Genetics section of the forums. I saw the mention of Evolution towards psychic... and I clicked on it. Usually that takes you to the first post in the thread, but this time it took me straight to your post. Spooky, or was I drawn here?

[iglak]

YES!!

AWESOME!!

XD

 

 

i'm going slightly nearsighted, and i have resisted glasses for that reason.

a couple years ago i kind of lost my motivation to do things... i wasn't depressed, just bored

but after reading that, i feel motivated again. i don't care if it's true or not, but now i know that it can be done.

 

which gets me thinking, maybe i lost my motivation because people, in general, forced into my mind the idea that some things were impossible (my eyes will just get worse, i need glasses... people have to train for years to be able to do stunts like that... things like that).

 

i don't know exactly what it is, but i have my motivation back

 

thanks

 

> (the "enjoys the thought of the upcoming challenge" face)

 

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i only wish i had read that when you posted it... 18 days ago...

[Crash]

Amazing......

[Guest chudeyong]

i like it very much

[ydoaPs]

Brain sized does not matter. What makes people more whatever is the number of connections which is determined primarily during infancy.

 

Maybe the psychic gene does more than just give you psychic abilities. It could also make you sterile. That would explain the lack of "psychics."

 

I think everyone is a little psychic. Everyone I know has answered the door before someone knocked or the phone before it rang at least once. And we sometimes can read each other's minds.

 

I have a friend that can tell you exactly what you are thinking. He said a doctor told him it had a medical name. I forgot what it was though.

[zhuam]

I think the question is stupid, it just intends to attract attention. Stop watching sci-fi movies! Your question is similar to: "Will humans eventually fly (withut any apparatus)?"

[ydoaPs]

humans could fly without apparatus given the use of some crafty genetic engineering.

[Phi for All]

humans could fly without apparatus given the use of some crafty genetic engineering.

Wings? Or genetically altering the mind to tap into EM or GR fields?