Martin Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 http://www.aip.org/pnu/2006/split/767-3.html?source=rsspnu for comparison the temperature at the center of the sun is calculated to be 15 million kelvin in this experiment a temperature about 100 times hotter than at the center of the sun was briefly produced
insane_alien Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 Pah! thats nothing! you should be in my house when my mum is in. It could be 5 billion K and she'd be walking around in a big wooly jumper asking "is it just me or is anyone else cold?"
Royston Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 The images of the plasma are awesome, I'd like to spark a cigar off that thing...'my work is done here.'
bascule Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 Impressive... most impressive... And the Z Machine rocks:
Martin Posted March 10, 2006 Author Posted March 10, 2006 yesterday (9 March) wormholeman started a new thread about the 2 billion kelvin at Sandia Lab http://www.scienceforums.net/forums/showthread.php?t=19153 there seems to be some interest in how such a high temperature was actually produced
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted March 10, 2006 Posted March 10, 2006 Dang, this is old news. And I had ready to be posted in the news forum, too.
Illuminati Posted March 10, 2006 Posted March 10, 2006 It may be old, but it is certainly impressive.
Martin Posted March 10, 2006 Author Posted March 10, 2006 Dang, this is old news. And I had ready to be posted in the news forum, too. I've noticed you tend to look into things in depth. Do you have any word on how they measure the temperature, and what people think may be causing such an extreme spike in temperature? I am curious---the figure 2 billion kelvin is surprising (and even makes me a bit skeptical, I just dont have any reason to doubt). but although I'm curious I have not made time to read carefully and find out more about it. So I would welcome some more news reporting about this or some more discussion in one of the threads.
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted March 10, 2006 Posted March 10, 2006 I don't know how they measured it, but the link seems to indicate that the cause of the spike is simply the method used to generate X-Rays: 20 million amps are run through a set of wires, which implode and create a ball of plasma. Ouch.
[Tycho?] Posted March 10, 2006 Posted March 10, 2006 From what I read the researchers arn't sure how they got such a high temperature. They have ideas about it, but they certainly wern't looking to break a temperature record when they ran the experiment.
Martin Posted March 11, 2006 Author Posted March 11, 2006 maybe a very basic physics fact should be mentioned here, in case it would contribute some intuition several in this thread doubtless know that if you have two parallel wires and if you put DC thru them in the same direction then the wires will attract each other and I have seen wires carrying DC actually BOW IN towards each other like knock-knee parens ")( ". if you had a circle of parallel, forming a cylinder and you put DC thru them all in the same direction (all up or all down) then these wires would all attract each other and pull each other in towards the center in this experiment at the same time as the wires are scrunching together they are also vaporizing and the vapor is ionizing into plasma and maybe the magnetic field is trapped by the plasma and it continues to contract the plasma. I don't know about this last part. but the main thing is that two currents in the same direction attract each other (and if they go in the opposite direction the wires actually bow apart, like "()" parenthesis or cowboy legs.) if nobody needed that basic magnetism review or tutorial, I apologize. it has to do with Capt. R saying "implode"----it is part of the implode mechanism
Erich Posted March 27, 2006 Posted March 27, 2006 Looks like Eric Lerner is moving down the road with his Focus Fusion device!! U.S., Chilean Labs to Collaborate on Testing Scientific Feasibility of Focus Fusion http://pesn.com/2006/03/18/9600250_LPP_Chilean_Nuclear_Commission/
Erich Posted March 27, 2006 Posted March 27, 2006 U.S., Chilean Labs to Collaborate on Testing Scientific Feasibility of Focus Fusion http://pesn.com/2006/03/18/9600250_LPP_Chilean_Nuclear_Commission/
Norman Albers Posted April 16, 2006 Posted April 16, 2006 They say the proton-boron reaction yields no other radioactivity. How nice.
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