caseclosed Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 this problem, I don't even have a clue where to start...
Tartaglia Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 Substitute sinx = 2t/(1+t^2) cosx = (1-t^2)/(1+t^2) where t = tan(x/2), dt/dx = 1/2*(1+t^2) rearranging gives / | dt/(1+t) = ln(1 + tan(x/2)) + c /
NeonBlack Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 This one is kind of a mess. Try integration by parts. Let [math]dv=dx[/math] [math]u=\frac{1}{1+cosx+sinx}[/math] Do that process, then you'll have to do integration by parts again. Have fun. Edit: Nevermind! This just brings you in circles. Tartaglia's is probably better.
caseclosed Posted March 17, 2006 Author Posted March 17, 2006 Substitute sinx = 2t/(1+t^2) cosx = (1-t^2)/(1+t^2) where t = tan(x/2)' date=' dt/dx = 1/2*(1+t^2) rearranging gives / | dt/(1+t) = ln(1 + tan(x/2)) + c /[/quote'] I got the answer / | ln(2 + 2tan(x/2)) + c / after looking up my identity sheet and I saw those substitutions but for dt/dx it is (2dt) / (1+t^2) which is different from your 1/2*(1+t^2).
Tartaglia Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 Your expression is for dx not dt/dx and so it is tha same as mine only upside down. You are also obviously unfamiliar with the laws of logs as ln(2 + 2tan(x/2)) = ln2 + ln(1+tan(x/2)) and the ln2 disappears into the integration constant
caseclosed Posted March 17, 2006 Author Posted March 17, 2006 Your expression is for dx not dt/dx and so it is tha same as mine only upside down. You are also obviously unfamiliar with the laws of logs as ln(2 + 2tan(x/2)) = ln2 + ln(1+tan(x/2)) and the ln2 disappears into the integration constant ahh, you're right, I am not familiar with logs, heh. and o yeah that thing on my sheet is dx. lol. thanks!!! you're a genius at this, you got my vote
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