Daecon Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 (I couldn't decide which area this topic would be most appropriate for, so please feel free to move it somewhere else if need be.) I was wondering if there has been any entertaining of the possiblilty that a Black hole Could be the "end" of a trans-dimensional open string? On the idea that the more energy you pump into a string, the more it will vibrate until it reaches a critical intensity, then afterwards the string will extend proportional to the extra energy you continue to give it... With a black hole, gravity will mean that the string will have nowhere to go, as it's length would be restricted by gravity and the warping of space, but what if the end of the string "punches through" into another of the 7 dimensions? More matter going into the black hole = more energy for the string to expand, and so the longer it grows, yet we can't tell because it's now outside of our 3 detectable spacial dimensions. So the singluarity of a black Hole need not be a point after all, even though it will only appear to be a point in our 3 dimensions, it's actually just the very end of a string. Is this making any sense or does it seem absurd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorMO Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 sounds like 3 steps from a good sci-fi book involving worm hole like black holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daecon Posted March 19, 2006 Author Share Posted March 19, 2006 A string isn't a worm-hole. It's a one-brane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 That makes a lot of sense. When black holes "eat" matter the overall entropy of the black hole has to increase. String theory proves this is possible but i have never heard of cossing dimensions to overcome this paradox, sounds really cool though, youve got me interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daecon Posted March 24, 2006 Author Share Posted March 24, 2006 Hey thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 If i could ask... where did you get your info... i would like to read up. Thanx a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daecon Posted March 26, 2006 Author Share Posted March 26, 2006 The part about the strings vibrating and then expanding depending on the energy of it was either from one of Brian Greene's books (Fabric of the Cosmos) or a magazine like Scientific American (Frontiers of Physics special edition). The rest of it is just stuff I thought up on my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTM³ Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 I'm no expert-but if black holes are formed from collapsing matter (giant stars), what in the world do they have to do with strings!? And according to Stephen Hawking they eventually evaporate..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubJunk Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 (I couldn't decide which area this topic would be most appropriate for' date=' so please feel free to move it somewhere else if need be.)[/size'] I was wondering if there has been any entertaining of the possiblilty that a Black hole Could be the "end" of a trans-dimensional open string? On the idea that the more energy you pump into a string, the more it will vibrate until it reaches a critical intensity, then afterwards the string will extend proportional to the extra energy you continue to give it... With a black hole, gravity will mean that the string will have nowhere to go, as it's length would be restricted by gravity and the warping of space, but what if the end of the string "punches through" into another of the 7 dimensions? More matter going into the black hole = more energy for the string to expand, and so the longer it grows, yet we can't tell because it's now outside of our 3 detectable spacial dimensions. So the singluarity of a black Hole need not be a point after all, even though it will only appear to be a point in our 3 dimensions, it's actually just the very end of a string. Is this making any sense or does it seem absurd? String punching through into another of the 7 dimensions? That's not how it works. I would recommend learning a little more about string theory and what strings actually are, also what is meant by "extra dimensions". A useful analogy is to think of an insect crawling around a pole, this insect is in a way existing in a dimension we can't see. This is what is meant by extra dimension, where each extra dimension only exists at an incedibly unfathomably small size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daecon Posted March 27, 2006 Author Share Posted March 27, 2006 Ah, I mean that if the "p-brane" theory of the Universe is correct... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emcelhannon Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 This really is interesting. It's less complicated than the infinities involved in a singularity. I would like to understand more about why the string grows, and how. Fill me in, and what limit would likely equal "critical mass"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranjha Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Ok I don't get it. If gravitation is the governing force for limitation of vibration in strings than we are just stuck at the horizon because the radiation coming out of the black hole should have some effect on the vibrations of strings. That is assuming these strings are the fundamental blocks because so far quantum has not proved or disproved there existence. As far is "punching a hole" goes that would disrupt the warping of space and time because now the so called "Fabric of space" is not continuous. The whole relativity idea breaks if that happens because eventually all mass would disappear. Than what happened to conservation of energy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightingbird Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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