Norman Albers Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 I just heard on radio that a can of soda can contain maybe ten or twelve teaspoons of sugar. Dear God. I have no sugar in my house and eat whole grains and vegetables and good meats. When you are weaned of sugar and salt you appreciate good long-time-constant energy. Do not ask why school teens are crazy. I like a small glass of fruit juice. SCIENTIFICALLY, I noticed a mention of storing fat, pot bellies, etc. Naturally, when the blackberries are ripe in August, you can identify a 'native' of Oregon by the purple stains on their fingers and mouth. Are we built to absorb a lot of input? Fruit sugar is slower to matabolise and this is what matters, as well as insulin response. Our ancestors must have lived (and died) with difficult irregularities of hunting and gathering.
gcol Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 I have run your question through my babelfish translator, and it came up with this answer: "Should have listened to your ol' granpappy when he told you that a little of what you fancy does you good, or all things in moderation
Norman Albers Posted April 1, 2006 Author Posted April 1, 2006 In September robins are getting drunk on my madrone tree berries. In late October, bears are wallering contentedly away from grape vineyards in the early morning. We give them leeway.
gcol Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 Yor time zone seems shifted by six months. Never mind the sugar, cut down on the halucinogenic berries and grapes, or send me some samples!
Norman Albers Posted April 1, 2006 Author Posted April 1, 2006 I appreciate my horticultural cannabis and Oregon has fairly enlightened attitudes here. It is medicinally allowed and police no longer care. This was not what I was talking about, but it all matters!!! Have you ever tasted a slightly old cucumber in the garden? It has a bit of vinegar taste. I am serious about drunk and happy birds and bears. Given our half-year mutual phase shift this could be a useful relationship.
WillTheNewf Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 http://www.formerfatguy.com/articles/124reasons-no-sugar.asp Don't forget about them rock n roll butterflys, they are hardcore!
swansont Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 I just heard on radio that a can of soda can contain maybe ten or twelve teaspoons of sugar. Dear God. I have no sugar in my house and eat whole grains and vegetables and good meats. When you are weaned of sugar and salt you appreciate good long-time-constant energy. Do not ask why school teens are crazy. I like a small glass of fruit juice. SCIENTIFICALLY, I noticed a mention of storing fat, pot bellies, etc. Naturally, when the blackberries are ripe in August, you can identify a 'native' of Oregon by the purple stains on their fingers and mouth. Are we built to absorb a lot of input? Fruit sugar is slower to matabolise and this is what matters, as well as insulin response. Our ancestors must have lived (and died) with difficult irregularities of hunting and gathering. Note that most soda pop is sweetened with fructose (fruit sugar, in the form of high-fructose corn syrup) and not dextrose (table sugar). I recall reading that fructose doesn't trigger the same "I'm full" response as dextrose, as well as not being metabolized in quite the same way, and this is thought by some to be one reason for the obesity epidemic.
WillTheNewf Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 Note that most soda pop is sweetened with fructose (fruit sugar, in the form of high-fructose corn syrup) and not dextrose (table sugar). I recall reading that fructose doesn't trigger the same "I'm full" response as dextrose, as well as not being metabolized in quite the same way, and this is thought by some to be one reason for the obesity epidemic. Table sugar isn't dextrose, its sucrose. Dextrose is the good stuff for after a workout .. Have you ever seen a smartie burn? And people wonder why they "burn out" after eating something sugary
swansont Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 Table sugar isn't dextrose' date=' its sucrose. Dextrose is the good stuff for after a workout ..[/quote'] Mea culpa. I was getting glucose and sucrose mixed up.
Norman Albers Posted April 2, 2006 Author Posted April 2, 2006 I think fructose is more complex and needs another breakdown step. My McGraw-Hill Dictionary calls it the sweetest of sugars, curiously. I wonder about our ancestors often not getting three square meals a day (to say the least), and the natural role of feasting, insulin, and fat storage. It is not a coincidence that we have Thanksgiving at fall harvest. Winter has come and we need some 'bearfat'. . . . . . . .Nectars are fructose. I have heard the term' glycemic index', no? Why is dextrose welcome after exertion, Will? . . . . . . . . . . I read that people get fat from carbos in diet soda, also.
WillTheNewf Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 after you workout your glycogen and blood sugar is gone, your on empty. in order to drive nutrients to your muscle you must spike your insulin with a HI GI carb, such as dextrose. IF you do not spike your insulin as such and just take a protein shake, the majoirty if not all of the shake will goto replacing glycogen and not entering your muscle.
swansont Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 I think fructose is more complex and needs another breakdown step. According to this fructose and glucose are the constituents of sucrose.
Norman Albers Posted April 3, 2006 Author Posted April 3, 2006 Following the idea of our food needs I launched a thread in Evolution...etc. called Iceman. What was breakfast forty thousand years ago? Croissants? Bangers?
mattbimbo Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 this thread could easily lead onto calorie restriction and lifespan. the best work has been done in yeast but seems to be applicable to all organisms.
Norman Albers Posted April 3, 2006 Author Posted April 3, 2006 Yah, take this where you will. I have indeed thought this while waiting for the cook who never shows up to make my third meal. I am a little underweight but intend to dance upon the graves of my detractors. One day three or four years ago I had an extraordinary morning, where I dialed up the "kindergarten" form of the Maxwell current equation. I set omega to zero and got the radial eq. in my paper. Next day I had a large lunch, came back, and was absolutely incapable of retracing my several logical steps!!! This is a horrible feeling, until you relax and realize your blood is loaded with the carbos and whatever all happens when you eat a lot, which I usually don't do. So I got up, sipped water, and did something else for a few hours. With a quiet, clear mind, it was clear I did well. See my electron paper.
Norman Albers Posted May 24, 2006 Author Posted May 24, 2006 Funny stuff: "...modern soft drink makers lag millions of years behind the curve, still catching up with the purveyors of tasty, sugary beverages...Most kinds of additives dreamed up by today's drink manufacturers have, with recent research, been recognized in plant nectars. Coloring to beguile the eye? Scents to interest the nose? Health boosters? Preservatives?" Great article.
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