crims Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 No doubt a lot of you already know about the supposed timetraveller 'John Titor'. I read a lot of stuff by people trying to disprove and show that he's hoax, but I haven't found anything especially convincing. These following predictions by John Titor were the most convincing and made me think he could be real: "Real disruptions in world events begin with the destabilization of the West as a result of degrading US foreign policy and consistency." "In the grand scheme of things, the war in the Middle East is a part of what's to come, not the cause." [This was posted in November 2000] "I'm glad to see it's so easy for [you] to dismiss the Middle East. Yes, I suppose it is a no brainer but pretty soon it will be a "no armer" and a "no legger". [Nov 2000] "I believe they [China] are pretty close to putting a man in orbit. It shouldn't surprise you if they do that soon." [Late 2000/Early 2001 - China put a man into orbit in Oct 2003] "Are you really surprised to find out that Iraq has nukes now or is that just BS to whip everyone up into accepting the next war?" [Late 2000/Early 2001] Plus he said there would be a woman president in 2008 (Condi Rice or Hillary?)... which would make sense for Condi, since she's an expert on Russia/USSR and John Titor predicted Russia would nuke USA in 2015... Anyone have anything that could prove him as a hoax? But please keep it simple... I don't want to go through a pile of links just to see the argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ydoaPs Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Another John Titor thread? i'm a time traveler. i have seen the death of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crims Posted April 4, 2006 Author Share Posted April 4, 2006 The subject deserves a new thread in light of recent events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ydoaPs Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 no; no it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crims Posted April 4, 2006 Author Share Posted April 4, 2006 Umm... can we just have this discussion? I just wanted to hear what people thoughts were on those quotes from John Titor... Okay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ydoaPs Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 check out the threads i've linked to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crims Posted April 4, 2006 Author Share Posted April 4, 2006 They don't have these quotes mentioned, plus I wanted to refute the old arguments people use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustStuit Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Do they even need to be refuted? People believe him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crims Posted April 4, 2006 Author Share Posted April 4, 2006 I don't think so... but I do, because I can't see how he could've known about the Middle East thing. Plus, it's presidential and parliamentary elections in Russia in 2007-2008, and there's been recent surge of nationalism (check this video from Mar 4, 2006: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9179107195689521084&pl=true )... even the current Russian administration doesn't believe it'll remain in power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crims Posted April 4, 2006 Author Share Posted April 4, 2006 Is there anyone on this forum capable of critical and free thought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 well, as Critical as I can be, he`s a Fake. and I say that Freely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 [sarcasm]Oooh. Strife in the middle east. Nobody could have seen that coming, unless he was from the future.[/sarcasm] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane_alien Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Just cos people can see through the idiocy of john titor does not mean that they can't think critically and freely. quite the opposite infact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Is there anyone on this forum capable of critical and free thought? You don't appear to be asking for either one. You appear to be asking for people who agree with you. If Titor were real, then there really should be no mistakes. It's recent history, not future prediction for him. So a blatantly wrong item quashes the whole thing, like the US being in a civil war in 2005, starting with unrest around the 2004 elections and "a Waco type event every month" in '05. And no Olympics after 2004. There's no point in discussing things that are close to being right, when there is stuff that's wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crims Posted April 5, 2006 Author Share Posted April 5, 2006 Yeah, he got the thing about Olympics wrong, but it seemed for a time like the one about Civil War might come true. He said the Civil War would be flaring up and down, until in 2008 everyone would be certain and there would be some mass realization. The Civil War thing might still be true, because he said it begins in 2004/05 (as in the cause of it, not the war itself)... I haven't seen any Waco-type events, but maybe this is because of the %2 divergence? Or perhaps there's searches, wiretaps, etc., that are going on right now that we don't know about? Still, how did he know the Middle East thing... nobody knew about Iraq or WMD's or anything... especially not before 9/11. 2008 should be the final date that decides whether he was real or fake, because he said everyone would realize what he was saying in 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustStuit Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 Nobody knew the middle east thing? Are you kidding me.... Oil inflation it being full of oil countries already with tension. There's a quote I like to say, "When you look for conicidences, you find them." He was wrong on the olympic thing, the civil war thing, etc. If he can't get major things right why bother? If you're looking for tiny could be proofs, anything can be right. People are so gullible these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crims Posted April 5, 2006 Author Share Posted April 5, 2006 Meh... 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustStuit Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 Meh... no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 There's always conflict in the Middle East, he wasn't predicting anything special. It is a hoax anyways. See here: http://communities.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=000111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crims Posted April 5, 2006 Author Share Posted April 5, 2006 Mm'kay, moving on... what about the 9/11 conspiracy theorists who say there were bombs in WTC7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drochaid Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 oh ffs he has "tit" in his name, of course it's a hoax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 crims, there is a search function for a reason. drochaid, thank you for that insightful sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crims Posted April 5, 2006 Author Share Posted April 5, 2006 Meh.. I started a new thread. =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ydoaPs Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 we can see that. we have discussed this rubbish several times before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crims Posted April 5, 2006 Author Share Posted April 5, 2006 Okay, forget about John Titor already... go to the 9/11 conspiracy thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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