greg1917 Posted October 31, 2003 Posted October 31, 2003 Im fed up of having to buy cigarettes and getting that annoying guilt trip when i read the health labels plastered all over the packet - second hand smoke damages those around you, decreases fertility, leads to a slow and painful death, will kill you blah blah blah. Smoking is cool. JAMES BOND DOES IT!!!
Sayonara Posted October 31, 2003 Posted October 31, 2003 ATM and I both quit in August. Not smoking is better than smoking.
fafalone Posted October 31, 2003 Posted October 31, 2003 so stop buying them... they're bad for you. I hate people who think blowing their cancer stick smoke in my face is their god-given right. smokers should be forced to do it in private.
greg1917 Posted October 31, 2003 Author Posted October 31, 2003 In what sense. Now you cant claim to be as cool as James Bond.
Sayonara Posted October 31, 2003 Posted October 31, 2003 I am cooler than James Bond. Smoking is his way of trying to catch up, but with those lungs he'll never make it.
Dudde Posted October 31, 2003 Posted October 31, 2003 smokers should be forced to inhale sweet pure (100%) oxygen for a week straight smoking is bad. You should be ashamed of yourself
greg1917 Posted October 31, 2003 Author Posted October 31, 2003 the same lungs that have adequately served Her most britanic majesty for about 4 decades? Id question the extent of your superior lung capacity Sayonara, I really would.
Sayonara Posted October 31, 2003 Posted October 31, 2003 Exactly - his lungs have been getting mangled by smoke for 40 years. Mine haven't.
JaKiri Posted October 31, 2003 Posted October 31, 2003 greg1917 said in post #1 :Smoking is cool. JAMES BOND DOES IT!!! James Bond also gets beaten up by terrorists. This isn't my cup of tea.
iglak Posted November 1, 2003 Posted November 1, 2003 MrL_JaKiri said in post #9 :James Bond also gets beaten up by terrorists. does james bond do his own stunts? if not, then i one-up him on that too.
daisy Posted November 1, 2003 Posted November 1, 2003 Say it once and say it loud "I smoke and I'm proud"!! Well.....actually I'm not proud but I DO smoke.... yes yes, I know it'll kill me if malignant melanoma or bowel/colon cancer doesn't (I have red/fair hair and intestinal cancers run in the family) but I'm hooked, what can I say??
daisy Posted November 1, 2003 Posted November 1, 2003 And before any of you start lecturing....I'm probably more aware of the dangers than any of you, so don't bother. Nicotine is an incredibly strong addiction (stronger than heroine apparently) and not easy to kick. If it pleases any of the sanctimonious amongst you I'll probably die of lung cancer after I've filled the government coffers with a substantial amount of tax revenue from tobacco. Incidentally, don't you think fat people should be taxed on hamburgers and chips etc.? Seems only fair to me....I'm not fat but I'll be paying for fat people... and I'm led to believe that the tax revenue from smoking more than covers the health costs that smokers incur...unlike the health costs of fat people. But I'm sure someone out there will disagree!! The UK government gets a huge amount of revenue from smokers and I'm just curious to know what they spend it on....it runs into 10's (if not 100's) of BILLIONS.
YT2095 Posted November 1, 2003 Posted November 1, 2003 My wife and I are both smokers, I`ve been smoking over 25 years now and still enjoy a cig with a beer or after a big meal, It`s rare to never I get the flu or a cold, maybe once every 5 years or so (not sure if smoking`s the reason for that or genetics?) but I feel healthy enough and other than a big dent in my wallet, there seems to be little ill effect? though I wish I`de never started in the first place, and would encourage anyone to never start because it is NOT good for you! and it WILL cause damage. there`s my 2 cents worth
Sayonara Posted November 1, 2003 Posted November 1, 2003 Daisy, I was saying exactly the same things in August but I went ahead and used a course of patches anyway, and by the fifth week had conquered that powerful addiction and didn't need a crutch. And I'm so glad I did it
daisy Posted November 2, 2003 Posted November 2, 2003 Good onya Sayonara!!...I tried the patches but I just couldn't get them to light...........OK...groan I know! but seriously I have tried to quit but dammit I ENJOY the evil weed
fafalone Posted November 2, 2003 Posted November 2, 2003 Addictions are a plight of the weak. I've done things way more addictive than nicotine without becoming dependent
YT2095 Posted November 3, 2003 Posted November 3, 2003 What on Earth could be more adictive than nicotine? other than maybe Pizza or a red hot Chicken Vindaloo
alt_f13 Posted November 3, 2003 Posted November 3, 2003 Originally posted by YT2095 What on Earth could be more adictive than nicotine? other than maybe Pizza or a red hot Chicken Vindaloo Good point, chicken vindaloo is highly addictive and the potency of its spice has not yet been proven not to encourage tumorous growth in the mouth and esophagus. Several references have been made to James Bond's smoking habbit. Well the fact is that while the actor Pierce Brosnan is an avid cigar smoker, the character James Bond has been used as an engine for stifling film's romance with smoke. There was even an illuminated no smoking sign displayed in the car issued to him in Tomorrow Never Dies. He did light up a cigar in his newest movie however; of course, he was in Cuba at the time. Irregardless, Brosnan did have this to say on the subject: "I enjoy them. People give me fine cigars, and I enjoy sharing them with people who really appreciate a fine cigar. There have been times when I've gone out with business guys and smoked cigars, and they've been among the most pleasurable evenings I've had. Good cigars and good company. Hard to beat." I, for one, cannot dissagree with him. I don't mind a nicely flavored cigar every once in a while with friends. A good glass scotch or spiced rum and a whiskey tipped cigar are beautiful things. Especially on those frosty northern nights, sitting in front of your fireplace, the wind whistling outside while you remain warm and comfy in the amber-lit, wood constructed lounge on your favorite easy chair. You take in a lungful of warm, rich smoke, delicately scented of caramel and cedar, and you exhale a fine plume of the best tasting mist money can buy. Truely a sensation reserved only for the enlightened. I dunno about you people but I just convinced myself to take up cigar smoking right there. I mean, dayamn.
Sayonara Posted November 3, 2003 Posted November 3, 2003 fafalone said in post #16 :Addictions are a plight of the weak. That's definitely a factor when you're trying to give up a strong nicotine addiction. It's not so much that nicotine addicts are weak people though - it's more like they're trapped by a morbid fear of being without the drug, and the weakness rears its head when you try to get over that fear. It's like the drug gets inside your defences, then turns them all off. Everyone in that situation really just needs a little push to remind them they're stronger than that, but it's different for everyone. Some people need a lot more convincing that their life will be better with more ready cash, no evil-smelling clothes and/or breath, better lung capacity, less rapidly-aging skin and -- possibly most importantly -- being able to say goodbye to the joyful fun of the constant "when and where the next cig will be smoked being foremost on the mind" experience. All in all I'm glad I need no longer confess to being a smoker. YUK.
alt_f13 Posted November 3, 2003 Posted November 3, 2003 Remember those bubble-gum cigarettes of the late 80s? Suck in and get some bubble-gum dust? Those were awesome. Much more satisfying than real cigarettes.
YT2095 Posted November 3, 2003 Posted November 3, 2003 Actualy I was only kidding about the pizza and vindaloo, but there is actual scientific evidence to support what you said: "Good point, chicken vindaloo is highly addictive and the potency of its spice " apparently (I`m sure Glider will put me right if I`m a bit off here), the hotness of the Chilis causes pain receptors to fire and the brain then releases endorphines. these are the bodys natural pain killers and just as strong as Morphine or other Opiates, and equaly as addictive, I think it was 1`st discovered with these body builders that confessed to actualy getting "High" from a workout, it was the brain chems that did it personaly, with regards to Chilis, I love them, I grow them, the`re even pleasing to look at and have a great smell too, even the not so hot ones so my "adiction" is partly psychological too. I`de like to know why endorphines only work when you least expect them to though? it hardly seems fair that if you stub and break your big toe on the edge of the bed or something, it hurts like a real MOFO for weeks! where`s the justice in that!?
greg1917 Posted November 3, 2003 Author Posted November 3, 2003 I tried a nicotine patch but I only ended up recharging it.
Sayonara Posted November 3, 2003 Posted November 3, 2003 I found the patches to be just the thing. Apparently those inhalators are very good indeed if you can get over looking like a fruitcake. Sublingual tabs are EVIL, and lozenges are highly inconvenient.
greg1917 Posted November 3, 2003 Author Posted November 3, 2003 my grandmother found the nicorette stick things really helpful, however they are significantly more expensive than the gum from what I remember. the stick itself is a dew pounds and the cartridges are it takes are also a few pounds, so you could end up buying quite a lot of them.
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