ecoli Posted May 8, 2006 Posted May 8, 2006 Hi guys. I'm trying to figure out how to do this question. It was on a test at the beginning of the year, and now I have to know it for the final. You have a galvanic cell based on the two half reaction: [ce]Cr2O7^{-2} +14H^+ + 6e^- -> 2Cr^{+3} + 7H2O[/ce] [math]1.33V[/math] [ce]Cu^{+2} + 2e^{-} -> Cu [/ce] [math]0.34V[/math] The anode here would be the Copper, so you would reverse the reaction, and make the voltage negative. The Question also gives the following information: "Calculate E for the cell assuming a pH of 7 and that all Cr and Cu containing ions have a concentration of 0.10M. Assume standard conditions" We then apply the Nerst equation [math] E = E^o - \frac{.0592}{n} logQ [/math] [math]E^o[/math] would be 1.33V-.34V, to give .99V. And n is the moles of elecrons, 6, once the second equation is normalized by multiplying coefficents by 3. However, Q is eluding me. I know it's the concentration of the anode/cathode, but I think the pH comes into play somewhere, and I'm not sure how. Thanks.
Tartaglia Posted May 9, 2006 Posted May 9, 2006 Cr2O72- + 14H+ + 3Cu --> 2Cr3+ +7H2O + 3Cu2+ K = [Cr3+]^2*[H2O]^7*[Cu^2+]^3/{[Cr2O72-]*[H+]^14} Since the solutions are reasonably dilute we can take the activities to be the concentrations Cu is a solid and [Cu] is defined as 1, [H2O] is constant and [H+] is constant at 10^-7 Therefore K will change by a factor of 0.1^2*0.1^3/0.1 = 0.1^4 therefore ln Q = ln {0.1^4}
woelen Posted May 9, 2006 Posted May 9, 2006 Tartaglia, are you sure about the concentration of H(+)? A solution of a dichromate is somewhat acidic. Besides that, the reaction consumes quite a lot of H(+), so soon, at the very low concentrations of H(+) involved here, the concentration of H(+) rapidly changes. A cell, based on this quickly changes properties (deteriorates, because the reduction of chromium (VI) to chromium (III) becomes much harder at increasing pH).
Tartaglia Posted May 9, 2006 Posted May 9, 2006 Woelen - Good point the pH will change from standard conditions where [H+] = 1 therefore K will change by a factor of 0.1^2*0.1^3/{0.1*{10^-7}^14} = 10^94 lnQ = ln(10^94) making emf about two volts less ie a lot less favourable
Tartaglia Posted May 9, 2006 Posted May 9, 2006 the 0.0592 factor should be RT/F which I make 8.314*298/96500C = 0.02567 This would make the emf about 1V less - still substantial
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