ArchAngel Posted June 21, 2006 Posted June 21, 2006 A US Patent has been awarded to John Timothy Sullivan for the Sully Direct Current, which is not AC nor DC. Discovered as part of new a electrolysis technique.BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, USA -- Clear Energy, Inc., a small R&D company in Baltimore, has been issued US Patent number 7,041,203 for a new electrical current. More at source Homepage: http://www.sullydc.com/index.html Patent: http://patft.uspto.gov Diagram from Mr. Sully comapring with X-Bridge: http://www.upload2.net/page/download/Wfkv2jhWORMY31J/SDC4.pdf.html Motion Diagram: http://artpad.art.com/gallery/?ivwok27luvg Mr. Sullys' forum thread at PhysOrg: http://forum.physorg.com/index.php?showtopic=5266 Images: http://www.rexresearch.com/sullivan/sullivan.htm I'm going to try to stumble through an explanation. Lets use figure 12 from the patent for discussion to avoid confusion: From the Patent: The multi-directional electric currents have the effect of accelerating processes that rely on interaction between a current and the medium that carries the current, and of eliminating asymmetries that can lead to scaling or premature wear in batteries and other electrolytic systems. The medium that carries the multi-dimensional currents may be an electrolyte, gas, gel, semiconductor, or any other medium capable of carrying current between two electrodes, and having at least two dimensions so as to enable variation in the current direction. ................................... If the voltages applied to the electrodes are DC voltages, then the multi-directional currents have characteristics of DC currents, and if the voltages applied to the electrodes are two or three phase AC voltages, then the multi-directional currents have characteristics of AC currents. However, unlike conventional DC and AC currents, the currents generated by the method and apparatus of the invention move or rotate. If the electrodes are one-dimensional wires, then the currents rotate in two-directions. If the electrodes themselves move, or extend over two or three-dimensions, for example a plane or a curved plane, then the currents will move in three-dimensions. SDC requires at least one extra PHYSICAL dimension in the current path which is the fluid electrolyte[Water + Electrolyte]. Through wires you can only have AC or DC in their various forms. SDC has characteristics that are found in both AC and DC that would seem to be mutally exclusive, and they are in a single dimensional circuit. In figure 12 you see two wires. One is connected to the two positive terminals, and the other to the two negative terminals. The four switches are alternated 180 degrees out of phase. In the first half of the cycle current flows from one pole through the wire, then through the coil to all points where conductor is touching the fluid medium, then across the medium to the other wire, and on to the opposing pole. At no time are there any more than two poles with a switch closed. In the second half of the cycle the current path is the same except that its coming from the opposite end of the wire. Think of the coil as having two single dimensional connections, and one multi-dimensional connection. Through the connection between the two power supply poles you have AC current without changing polarity. Through the connection between the poles and the medium you have DC current[in single dimensional terms. Actually its SDC]. Through the coil the direction of the current flow changes, but polarity never changes. Through the medium the current flow between anode and cathode never reverses, but its physical direction through the medium does change. It sort of sways back and forth without reversing direction. In absolute terms using one dimensional measurments you have continuous DC current flow between anode and cathode. It has all the properties of DC, but since the current flow though the medium is changing directions the current takes on the magnetic properties of AC current. You only need to change the direction, not reverse directions. It is DC with a property normally associated with AC. And it is AC with a property normally associated with DC. The effect cannot be reproduced with AC or DC. The properties are mutually exclusive in those systems. The new physical dimension in the circuit allows the current to possess an additional electrical property. If you are having a hard time understanding don't feel bad. I can't begin to do even the simplest parts of the math, but I can visualize what is happening in my mind. And I think 3DC [implying new dimensions] might be a better term, but Mr. Sullivan might not like the idea. SDC current through the electrolyte in the example also carries a time component even though flow is continuous DC in single dimensional terms. In other designs the current allows other combinations of properties that are mutually exclusive to AC and DC. You can have your cake, and eat it too. Michael
ArchAngel Posted June 25, 2006 Author Posted June 25, 2006 In a one dimensional world the only way to change direction is to reverse direction, but thats not true in a multi-dimensional world. The change in current direction through the coil-electrode is accomplished by switching which end of the wire is connected to the anode or cathode, but current flow between electrodes across the fluid medium does not reverse directions. Anode and Cathode do not switch, but direction does change. Current flow through the wire changes direction without changing polarity, and curent flow through the fluid medium does not reverse direction. A wire may be a single dimensional current path, but an electrode is not, and neither is a fluid medium capable of carrying current such as water with an electrolyte added.
woelen Posted June 25, 2006 Posted June 25, 2006 I don't see the special thing of this. It is always possible to create this effect by a combination of a DC-voltage source and an AC-current source, with the terminals of the voltage source connected to the terminals of the AC-current source. Between the two points, there will be a constant DC-voltage, and the current going through the wires will be alternating. Physically this means that the voltage source sometimes delivers energy, and sometimes it consumes energy. Nothing special though.
ArchAngel Posted June 25, 2006 Author Posted June 25, 2006 I don't see the special thing of this. It is always possible to create this effect by a combination of a DC-voltage source and an AC-current source, with the terminals of the voltage source connected to the terminals of the AC-current source. Between the two points, there will be a constant DC-voltage, and the current going through the wires will be alternating. Physically this means that the voltage source sometimes delivers energy, and sometimes it consumes energy. Nothing special though. Maybe I am not understanding, but with what you are describing anode and cathode will have to switch. Either that or current will not change direction.
swansont Posted June 25, 2006 Posted June 25, 2006 Isn't this just putting AC on top of a bias voltage? i.e. the circuit floats at some V, istead of being referenced to ground.
ArchAngel Posted June 25, 2006 Author Posted June 25, 2006 Isn't this just putting AC on top of a bias voltage? i.e. the circuit floats at some V, istead of being referenced to ground. This is a unique system. It is DC with four poles. The ends of anode, and cathode are switched. Current is continuous DC, but changes direction. A multi dimensional current path is required like a fluid medium, or plasma. None of the various forms of AC or DC compare to it. AC on top of a bias voltage still switches polarity, not SDC.
swansont Posted June 26, 2006 Posted June 26, 2006 None of the various forms of AC or DC compare to it. AC on top of a bias voltage still switches polarity, not SDC. No, it doesn't. The polarity, as defined in the drawing that notes that the voltmeter never changes sign, meaning it's the same polarity. Change the alternating voltage by less than Voffset.
ArchAngel Posted June 26, 2006 Author Posted June 26, 2006 No, it doesn't. The polarity, as defined in the drawing that notes that the voltmeter never changes sign, meaning it's the same polarity. Change the alternating voltage by less than Voffset[/sub']. Polarity does not change, but the direction of current through the coil does change by changing its origin. In a one dimensional world the only way to change direction is to reverse direction, but thats not true in a multi-dimensional world. The change in current direction through the coil-electrode is accomplished by switching which end of the wire is connected to the anode or cathode, but current flow between electrodes across the fluid medium does not reverse directions. Anode and Cathode do not switch, but direction does change. Current flow through the wire changes direction without changing polarity, and curent flow through the fluid medium does not reverse direction. A wire may be a single dimensional current path, but an electrode is not, and neither is a fluid medium capable of carrying current such as water with an electrolyte added. Think of the path as everything between origin, and destination. The path of the flow changes, but the origin and destination do not switch. It goes from the same place to the same place, but leaves and arrives by different paths. In a solid circuit the path never changes. You can't change origin and destination without switching polarity with either DC or AC. The four wires from the SDC power supply allow changing both origin and destination through a fluid medium capable of conducting current without switching polarity. Its not AC because anode, and Cathode never switch, and its not DC because origin and destination do change. Its all about controling and using the additional dimensions of a fluid medium. While the nature of fluid conduction is understood controling it through switching without reversing polarity is new and unique. The point is that, the way the four terminals are switched, the current WITHIN ONE ELECTRODE reverses direction, and has zero average value at the center. At the same time, the voltage BETWEEN ELECTRODES is a constant DC value (ignoring switching transients). Thus “multidirectional DC” refers simultaneously to the multidirectional intra-electrode current and the single direction inter-electrode current.
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