Edtharan Posted March 8, 2008 Posted March 8, 2008 Interestingly not all pyramids were pyramid shaped: See The Bent Pyramid. So if a pyramid doesn't have to be pyramid shaped, then what is so special about the sahpe? When the first Europeans started investigating them, they could not believe that a culture that they considdered inferior could ahve built those structures. This attitude continues today and people still claim things ranging from Aliens to Giants to Strange Hyperadvanced cultures (that disappear without a trace - like Atlantis) to explain them. But that kind of thinking started over 200 years ago and in light of modern archeology we know that none of those explainations are correct. We know that the people of Egypt made the pyramids (not slaves by the actual citizens of Egypt) and we have several ways they might have built them (we can't exactly sure which one, by we are failrly certain that it was one of them). We also know why they were built (they actually wrote that one down so we can be fairly certain that it is the reason). They were built as Tombs. Walk into any graveyard today and you can see the same kind of thinking. Monuments errected in honour of someone. There are building errected over famous peoples tombs all over the world. The Pyramids are no more mysterious than these. They have no other function that them. We've had miniatures at home and tried different experiments. Food will dry out instead of decomposing, if done correctly. Important is the fact that the pyramid has to be oriented facing north and the object has to be positioned at 1/3 above basis inside the pyramid. The material doesn't seem to matter, but precious or semi-precious metals seem to work best. In controled experiments that have been performed for many years, this effect has not been abel to be attributed to the pyramids. When reaserches have done this, as a control they have left out samples outside the pyramid and have achieved the same effect as the sample inside the pyramid. So either the placment is inconsiquential, or the pyramid is not doing a single thing. Actually, when these experiments have been examined closer, it has been shown that the effect seems to be caused entierly by external environmental effects. For thousands of years people have been drying and preserving foods, not by sticking them under a pyramid, but by leaving them out side! . Ever heard of Sundried Fruit? They doi this with meat too. As for thre Egyptians, they did not use the Pyramis to mummyfy the bodies, they used Natron (mainly salt with some other additives). Salt absorbs the water from the body and dehydrates it. Without water bacterial processes can't get started (and the salt effects bacteria themselves so they also get dehydrated too which kils them). We use the same process with salted meats (and have done so for thousands of years). Of course, when Europeans discovered the pyramids, the practice of mummyfication had long been abandoned and the knowledge of the process was lost from the cultural knowledge (it was only when they learned to read the instructions painted on temples and papyrus did we re-learn how they did it). However, dispite knowing this for around 100 years or so, it still hasn't managed to reach most people (or at least the ignore these facts as tend to debunk their beliefs) and peopel stillm think it was something in the pyramid that actually stopped the corpses from decomposing. The reason that bodins in pyramids didn't decompose was that they were dehydrated by covering them with salt for a few weeks, removing their organs and filling the body cavity with salt. You might say that the Pharaohs were the original "Salty" sea dogs . Without water bacteria can't survive. Without bacteria there is no decomposition (and even with bacteria decomposition doesn't necessarily occur by putrifaction). SO the effects attributed to pyramids, when you look at the origen of those claims, don't need any special properties of the pyramids themselves to acieve it.
JohnB Posted March 14, 2008 Posted March 14, 2008 Walk into any graveyard today and you can see the same kind of thinking. Monuments errected in honour of someone. There are building errected over famous peoples tombs all over the world. The Pyramids are no more mysterious than these. They have no other function that them. Mind you, in a graveyard you find bodies. No mummy or remains have been found inside a pyramid. (Except for a few unidentified bone fragments in the pyramid of Unas.)
Edtharan Posted March 14, 2008 Posted March 14, 2008 Mind you, in a graveyard you find bodies. No mummy or remains have been found inside a pyramid. (Except for a few unidentified bone fragments in the pyramid of Unas.) True, but monuments to the dead don't actually have to have the dead body in them. There are plenty of statues and even some buildings that are erected in honor of someone who has died. The Taj Mahal is a building errected by the Mughal Emperor Shah Jahan in memory of his favorite wife, Mumtaz Mahal. They used to be burried in Mastabas and the pyramid was usually nearby (there were other periods before and after the pyramid building when the pharoes were burried in tombs else where). So, yes, they might not have been burried in the pyramid, but they were part of the whole tomb structure. In modern cemitaries, you are not burried in hte head stone, but it is part of your burrial.
JohnB Posted March 17, 2008 Posted March 17, 2008 They used to be burried in Mastabas and the pyramid was usually nearby Um, no. The accepted pattern goes this way. Burials in Mastabas, then burial in Pyramids, then burial in tombs. (The Valley of The Kings.) There are no Mastabas for any of the Pharoahs of the Pyramid era, however courtiers were often allowed Mastabas or rock hewn tombs near the Pharoah they served. Hence the large Mastaba field at Giza. As an aside. My personal belief is that the Pyramids were not robbed. Khafre and the others from the era are still where they were left, but we haven't found them. By the 4th Dynasty, tomb robbing was already a problem for the Mastaba field, so measures would have to be taken to prevent the robbery of the Pharoah's tomb. Let's look at just two of those precautions from the Great Pyramid. 1. Granite blocks blocking the Ascending Passage. Recent studies have shown that these blocks could not possibly have been slid into place after the pyramid was finished, they were put there during construction. Also granite blocks in a limestone pyramid? Robbers would just tunnel above them through the soft limestone as Mamun did in 820 AD. 2. The Portcullis blocks. There are two problems here. Firstly the blocks didn't actually block the entrance to the King's Chamber and also they slid out of a large cavity in the ceiling. Mamun's people just climbed over the top of them and into the chamber. If we look at the pyramid as Mamun found it. The front entrance had been covered and lost. Specifically it had been covered since the 4 th Dynasty. Remember the casing stones were still in place then, they fell during an earthquake in the 10th century. Therefore no-one had entered through the front entrance for over 3,000 years. He then finds the granite plugs and discovers the ascending gallery. "Ho Ho, there must be something important up there, we'll just tunnel up and have a look." Then they get to the Portcullis. "Blocks blocking the passage? We'll go over them!" So he gets to the King's Chamber and finds? Nothing. Not even the broken piece from the corner of the Sarcophagus. "Damn, someone beat me to it." But how? There were no other tunnels so tomb robbers would have to get in through the main entrance. This was 40 ft up the side of a polished pyramid sitting on a plateu patrolled by guards. You'd think someone might notice the scaffolding and hole as it would be really hard to miss. It's a classic "locked room" mystery. If the King's chamber was empty when first entered, then it was empty when it was sealed. I believe that the King's Chamber is misdirection. It was intended to be found empty so that tomb robbers would think that someone else got there first and give up. I can't prove this but Gattenbrink's Door and some anomalous echo soundings appear to show that there are more passages in there than we know of.
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now