Edelweiss Posted July 17, 2006 Posted July 17, 2006 Does anyone know anything about vitamins? A long time ago I had a deficiency and was given vitamins (don't know what strength). When I got discharged, I bought a bottle (greatest strength) and took them about once a week/every other week so this would not happen again. Then someone mistakenly told me that the reason I was so sensitive was because I needed more vitamins. So I increased the amount per week for about six weeks the way the person advised. When I stopped, my body had an even worse reaction. I became allergic to most food and drink. I have to eat certain organic protein every few hours to keep from having allergic reactions (chest pains, itchy throat, runny nose, vomiting/nausea, puss pouring out of ears, sensitivity to odor x 1000, sensitivity to bacteria, etc.). This has been going on for more than a year. (I know you cannot "overdose" on B12 because it is not toxic, but I am still having terrible reactions.)
chuinhen Posted July 17, 2006 Posted July 17, 2006 1) can i know which vitamin are u taking ?? 2) what is the amount of vitamin (s) u took ? 3) what is the purpose for u to take vitamins ( any prevention ??) 4) Are u taking it everyday or per week ?? 5)Wat are the symptoms u got for the allergy ?
WillTheNewf Posted July 17, 2006 Posted July 17, 2006 I take a strong multi-vitamin twice a day. Don't know what vitamins your taking : /
YT2095 Posted July 17, 2006 Posted July 17, 2006 Vitamins are Not Magik pills, they`re simply additional suplements for your diet. with a well ballanced diet you need never take a vitamin ever, they are all in our food, and they aren`t Drugs/Medicines. I think you`ll find that you would have had the same result had you have not taken vits and eaten healthily. I suggest you see your doctor, it`s unlikely your vits are causaly linked.
scicop Posted July 17, 2006 Posted July 17, 2006 To paraphrase a quote by grandfather of pharmacology, Paracelsus, "Everything is toxic, its just a matter of dose". Water can be toxic. So can sugar. At high doses. So, vitamins in high quantities can be toxic as well. For example, high doses of vitamin C can be very pro-oxidant and promote inflammatory (and damaging) responses in the gut (as a result of damage caused by Vitamin C induced formation of reactive oxygen species) There are many studies have have investigated and reported on the effects of high doses of vitamins, and many have reported a number of adverse events. Do a pub-med search you'll find a TON of studies regarding this topic. that being said, you have to tell your MD (or DO) what vitamin you were taking, the quantitity, the frequency, and duration. To recap, some vitamin preparations can be damaging to your gut, creating a environment that can promote auto-antigenicity, or auto-immune responses such as the case for Inflammatory Bowel Diseases like Crohn's Disease. So, your physician should do an X-ray to see what's going on with your bowels as well, if not ask! Take home message..go see a physician
Edelweiss Posted July 17, 2006 Author Posted July 17, 2006 I thought I was asking a bunch of scientists. I included all the information. I explained the symptoms. Sorry I forgot to state that the vitamin is B12, as I mentioned at the very bottom of the post. It was the strongest dosage possible that comes in tablet form. I can't go back in time (two years). Otherwise I would not have taken them. As I said, I had a B12 deficiency and continued to take vitamins once I was discharged from the hospital. Doctors have not helped. I have tried to find info in med journals to no avail. I'm not a doctor. If you know where the articles are, I'd be happy to know. You have to be a subscribing member with most journals--have an MD. Most doctors either don't know or deny that there is any info out there. If I write too much, you might not read it.
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted July 17, 2006 Posted July 17, 2006 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B12#Side_effects.2C_contraindications.2C_and_warnings
scicop Posted July 17, 2006 Posted July 17, 2006 I thought I was asking a bunch of scientists. I included all the information. I explained the symptoms. Sorry I forgot to state that the vitamin is B12, as I mentioned at the very bottom of the post. It was the strongest dosage possible that comes in tablet form. I can't go back in time (two years). Otherwise I would not have taken them. As I said, I had a B12 deficiency and continued to take vitamins once I was discharged from the hospital. Doctors have not helped. I have tried to find info in med journals to no avail. I'm not a doctor. If you know where the articles are, I'd be happy to know. You have to be a subscribing member with most journals--have an MD. Most doctors either don't know or deny that there is any info out there. If I write too much, you might not read it. Re-read my post..think you're having an autoimmune response brought on by chronic inflammatory responses to excess vita B12. (you were probably put on due the anemia caused by vit b12 deficiency). There is alot of information out there: go to: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?DB=pubmed and type "vitamin B12 inflammatory" or "vitamin B12 autoimmune" you may not get the papers but the relevant findings for your level of knowledge are in the abstracts which are readily available. Print and take them to your doctor and discuss them. this is standard patient practice these days.
YT2095 Posted July 17, 2006 Posted July 17, 2006 you ARE asking Scientist for the large part, and it still stands, the symptomology you describe is NOT Charecteristic of a B12 OD. in fact IMO, it sounds very much like a severe infection, maybe even dental? and again, I Still maintain that you should seek advice from your Doctor, it is also Well within your rights to ask for and get, a second opinion. my guess would that an ENT specialist will nail this down for you quite nicely.
Edelweiss Posted July 17, 2006 Author Posted July 17, 2006 1) can i know which vitamin are u taking ?? B12 2) what is the amount of vitamin (s) u took ? Two tablets, twice a week for 6 weeks (12 tabs) This could be anywhere from 2000 micrograms to __? I think it was probably 4000 micrograms a week for six weeks. Later I read that 2000 is about the highest they recommend per week. 3) what is the purpose for u to take vitamins ( any prevention ??) B12 deficiency (also had anemia, but no one told me) 4) Are u taking it everyday or per week ?? I haven't had any in two years. 5)Wat are the symptoms u got for the allergy ? I am NOW allergic to most food and drink. Symptoms are: allergic reactions (chest pains, itchy throat, runny nose, vomiting/nausea, puss pouring out of ears, sensitivity to odor x 1000, sensitivity to bacteria, etc.).
YT2095 Posted July 17, 2006 Posted July 17, 2006 Puss (dead white cells) from the ears is a classic Infection, Not an alergic reaction! see your DOCTOR! I`m going to close this thread now, as until you DO actualy see your doc, there should be No-More chat about this, and the only other 2 people that I trust to answer you correctly can also post in a closed thread Glider, Blike... over to you.
Dave Posted July 17, 2006 Posted July 17, 2006 Just for the record; if you have concerns about your health or health-related matters, then you should always see your doctor before anybody else. Nobody online will ever be able to give you a good check-up based on written descriptions of symptoms, and no doctor would ever suggest you do such a thing. So please, see your doctor, and let us know how it turns out.
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