CPL.Luke Posted August 5, 2006 Posted August 5, 2006 what do you guys think of tackling Goldstein's mechanics on one's own?
kenshin Posted August 5, 2006 Posted August 5, 2006 Well, from personal experience I can say that you will enjoy, love and adore it from first to last word.Beautiful book!
Meir Achuz Posted August 7, 2006 Posted August 7, 2006 I would wait until after your UG course in mechanics. If you've done that, then enjoy.
Tannin Posted August 7, 2006 Posted August 7, 2006 In my opinion, the only problem of Goldstein's book is that the mathematical formalism used by the author differs very much from the formalism used in the modern research literature. Today's papers speak in the language of "manifolds","symplectic geometry", "differential forms" etc. And this is much more than some new notation - it's completely new unifying framework for thinking. So for all who is not afraid of mathematics, I would recommend to study this modern approach instead of tracking XIX century pathways. The definitive book introducing this new approach is Arnold V.I. "Mathematical foundations of classical mechanics",1989 (2ed) The book is rather slim and the exercises are very useful.
ajb Posted August 8, 2006 Posted August 8, 2006 Tannin is right, differential and bracket geometry is the modern way of thinking. The book by Arnold is cited in many papers, but I must confess that I have never read it. At some point I will get it out from the library.
CPL.Luke Posted August 10, 2006 Author Posted August 10, 2006 hmm, thanks all for the replies. I don't think I have the mathmatical know-how to tackle a physics book that includes anything like differential geometry, and it also seems like a knowledge of the basics is important before going on to that kinda thing. So I'll have to pick up a copy of goldsteins mechanics than. (also ajb I did have the equivalent of a freshman course in mechanics)
Meir Achuz Posted August 10, 2006 Posted August 10, 2006 "I did have the equivalent of a freshman course in mechanics". That's not enough. Wait till you've had the second level UG course before trying G on your own.
Tannin Posted November 13, 2006 Posted November 13, 2006 For all who are interested in gaining deeper insight into principles of mechanics (and eventually of most of the modern physics) I would like to recommend the book "Variational principles of mechanics" by C.Lanczos. In his introduction the author states that the book is not written for "superhuman beings" but for EVERYONE, and he keeps his promise. C. Lanczos was an assistant for A.Einstein and has many contributions in the field of mathematical physics. I think that understanding (and not merely following) Goldstein is much easier after Lanczos. His explanation of variational calculus is superb.
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