Michael Moores thoughts on Saddam.

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We Finally Got Our Frankenstein... and He Was In a Spider Hole! -- by Michael Moore

 

 

Thank God Saddam is finally back in American hands! He must have really missed us. Man, he sure looked bad! But, at least he got a free dental exam today. That's something most Americans can't get.

 

America used to like Saddam. We LOVED Saddam. We funded him. We armed him. We helped him gas Iranian troops.

 

But then he screwed up. He invaded the dictatorship of Kuwait and, in doing so, did the worst thing imaginable -- he threatened an even BETTER friend of ours: the dictatorship of Saudi Arabia, and its vast oil reserves. The Bushes and the Saudi royal family were and are close business partners, and Saddam, back in 1990, committed a royal blunder by getting a little too close to their wealthy holdings. Things went downhill for Saddam from there.

 

But it wasn't always that way. Saddam was our good friend and ally. We supported his regime. It wasn’t the first time we had helped a murderer. We liked playing Dr. Frankenstein. We created a lot of monsters -- the Shah of Iran, Somoza of Nicaragua, Pinochet of Chile -- and then we expressed ignorance or shock when they ran amok and massacred people. We liked Saddam because he was willing to fight the Ayatollah. So we made sure that he got billions of dollars to purchase weapons. Weapons of mass destruction. That's right, he had them. We should know -- we gave them to him!

 

We allowed and encouraged American corporations to do business with Saddam in the 1980s. That's how he got chemical and biological agents so he could use them in chemical and biological weapons. Here's the list of some of the stuff we sent him (according to a 1994 U.S. Senate report):

* Bacillus Anthracis, cause of anthrax.

* Clostridium Botulinum, a source of botulinum toxin.

* Histoplasma Capsulatam, cause of a disease attacking lungs, brain, spinal cord, and heart.

* Brucella Melitensis, a bacteria that can damage major organs.

* Clostridium Perfringens, a highly toxic bacteria causing systemic illness.

* Clostridium tetani, a highly toxigenic substance.

 

And here are some of the American corporations who helped to prop Saddam up by doing business with him: AT&T, Bechtel, Caterpillar, Dow Chemical, Dupont, Kodak, Hewlett-Packard, and IBM (for a full list of companies and descriptions of how they helped Saddam, click here.

 

We were so cozy with dear old Saddam that we decided to feed him satellite images so he could locate where the Iranian troops were. We pretty much knew how he would use the information, and sure enough, as soon as we sent him the spy photos, he gassed those troops. And we kept quiet. Because he was our friend, and the Iranians were the "enemy." A year after he first gassed the Iranians, we reestablished full diplomatic relations with him!

 

Later he gassed his own people, the Kurds. You would think that would force us to disassociate ourselves from him. Congress tried to impose economic sanctions on Saddam, but the Reagan White House quickly rejected that idea -- they wouldn’t let anything derail their good buddy Saddam. We had a virtual love fest with this Frankenstein whom we (in part) created.

 

And, just like the mythical Frankenstein, Saddam eventually spun out of control. He would no longer do what he was told by his master. Saddam had to be caught. And now that he has been brought back from the wilderness, perhaps he will have something to say about his creators. Maybe we can learn something... interesting. Maybe Don Rumsfeld could smile and shake Saddam's hand again. Just like he did when he went to see him in 1983 (click here to see the photo).

 

Maybe we never would have been in the situation we're in if Rumsfeld, Bush, Sr., and company hadn't been so excited back in the 80s about their friendly monster in the desert.

 

Meanwhile, anybody know where the guy is who killed 3,000 people on 9/11? Our other Frankenstein?? Maybe he's in a mouse hole.

 

So many of our little monsters, so little time before the next election.

 

Stay strong, Democratic candidates. Quit sounding like a bunch of wusses. These bastards sent us to war on a lie, the killing will not stop, the Arab world hates us with a passion, and we will pay for this out of our pockets for years to come. Nothing that happened today (or in the past 9 months) has made us ONE BIT safer in our post-9/11 world. Saddam was never a threat to our national security.

 

Only our desire to play Dr. Frankenstein dooms us all.

 

Yours,

 

Michael Moore

 

 

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?messageDate=2003-12-14

[Glider]

The man makes a good point.

[LuTze]

That he does. If he really wants to still be listened to by people, he should think about taking a little 'angry' out of his writing though.

 

He's in danger of convincing people who who might just listen to some of the things he has to say that he's a nutcase with a vendetta against Bush & Co.

[blike]

Does not that makes it all the more our (US) responsibility to remove him?

[Sayonara]

I think he might be criticising the way it's been done, rather than the fact that it was done in the first place.

[atinymonkey]

Links to the missing links :-

 

Here is the list link

 

Here is the photo

[blike]

I think he might be criticising the way it's been done, rather than the fact that it was done in the first place.

 

Of course he is criticizing. Something good came from the right wing; he HAS to criticize. He cannot simply say "good job". He has to point out that the US had relations with Saddam; else he would be a shame to his party everywhere.

 

I'm sure every one of you has been "former" friends with someone. Things change, crap happens. We put him in power, we should take him out of power.

 

"Maybe Don Rumsfeld could smile and shake Saddam's hand again. Just like he did when he went to see him in 1983 (click here to see the photo). "

 

The whole objective of this article is to slander the Reagan administration and to cast a negative light on a very positive thing. I've seen that photo HUNDREDS of times on forums. "OMG LOOK THEY WERE SHAKING HANDS! WE R EVIL!"

 

Roosevelt and Churchill: Godless Communists

 

 

 

[Sayonara]

All true, but he is still unlikely to say "good job".

 

It wasn't a good job, and it's still not over. That one 'bonus result' was good, but not the 'job' itself.

[blike]

I'll agree to that.

[YT2095]

ok, well this may seem like a dumb question but, WHO is Micheal Moore?

[Sayonara]

He's one of these TV people who walks into Walmart type stores with a camera crew and bullet-wound victims and asks them how they can sell ammo knowing it does THIS!!!!!!!! (reveal horrifying scars on 12 yr old boy). That sort of thing.

[YT2095]

Yeah, I spent a good 2 hours chatting to Sun_Lizard (fafs friend) on Yahoo, he told me all about it, he`s the guy that did the "Bowling for Columbine" docu/film.

and likes to mess with statistics, a bit like our gov with unemployment figures

[LuTze]

Any statistics in particular?

[YT2095]

when I see Sun_Lizard again, I`ll ask and post the URLs for ya

(no promises,but maybe 2moro)

[Glider]

blike said in post #7 :

I'm sure every one of you has been "former" friends with someone. Things change, crap happens. We put him in power, we should take him out of power. [/img]

 

I think this is a part of his (Moores') point; why did the US put him in power in the first place? i.e. why did the US feel the need (or believe it had the right) to dictate the government of foreign countries? (I'm perfectly sure the UK is guilty of such meddling too, that doesn't make it acceptable.).

[atinymonkey]

We didn't give him weapons like the US. We sold them to him for a healthy profit. It's an interesting point, it was the UK that annexed Kuwait from Iraq as soon as we discovered oil. Suprisingly, Iraq invading Kuwait was actually a valid political decision to reclaim an arbitrarily annexed section of Iraq. But for the whole oil thing, it may have proceeded without mention.