Dear SFN: The sun does not cause skin cancer

[Hades]

I just wanted to put this out there and get some responses on this 'theory'.

 

by sun, i mean exposure to the sun.

[the tree]

The sun does not cause skin cancer

That by no means stands up to the proper scientific use of the word 'theory'.

[insane_alien]

yes, because UV light doesn't mess up DNA which can lead to cancerous growth if it hits the right bit.

 

and hundreds of labs all over the world haven't confirmed this time and time again

[DaveC426913]

Why don't we give him a chance before shooting him down?

 

Hades, can you expound upon your claim?

[insane_alien]

ok, i'll hear him out. but it better be good.

[YT2095]

good call Dave!

 

Hades fire away with your evidence mate.

Then we`ll shoot it down

[ecoli]

You're evidence is going to have to be really strong in order to disprove these guys at Harvard: http://www.dfci.harvard.edu/abo/news/pressarchive/013003.asp

 

What are your qualifications for making this statement? In other words, have you taken high school biology yet?

[Sisyphus]

Skin cancer is a conspiracy of the liberal media.

[ecoli]

Skin cancer is a conspiracy of the liberal media.

 

Yeah, they just want us to dump tax dollars into wasteful government cancer research programs.

[blike]

Skin cancer is a conspiracy of the liberal media.

Until you get it.

[AzurePhoenix]

Skin cancer is a conspiracy of the liberal media.

It's true. The sun doesn't cause tanning they way the claim either, that's caused by a brown algae beneath the skin that flourishes under daylight

[Pangloss]

It's a government conspiracy to tax sunlight.

[Sayonara]

Until you get it.

 

At which point it becomes the fault of the Federal Government...?

[the tree]

At which point it becomes the fault of the Federal Government...?

It becomes the fault of the Feds and the Illuminati.

 

I swear I didn't realise the pun until after typing that.

[-Demosthenes-]

It's not the sunlight we actually see, it's the UV light that comes with it?

[Phi for All]

I just wanted to put this out there and get some responses on this 'theory'.

Responses:

1. *snicker*

 

2. Way to go on the use of quote marks around the word theory. I could just see you using your fingers when you said it.

 

3. Says who?

 

4. You're probably wrong.

 

5. Some kinds it does.

 

6. Why is this in GD?

 

7. *burp*

 

8. Sun screen with SPF 0 will probably cost just as much.

 

9. Are you insane?

 

10. Statement ≠ theory

[Hades]

This is what Kevin Trudeau says. Cancer is caused by parasites, he proclaims. Ironically, he says do not use microwaves b/c they cause cancer, but bask in the sun all you want.

 

And i've had pre-cancerous moles removed because of exposure from the sun from surfing, so i know they cause them.

[Hades]

I also want to note that a relative of mine follows this mans every word and as a result has stopped applying sunscreen on his young children, who also surf.

 

very off today. i also need to add, his 'theory', because its been clinically tested at the university of snake oil, states the cause of skin cancer is from sunblock.

[blike]

I also want to note that a relative of mine follows this mans every word and as a result has stopped applying sunscreen on his young children, who also surf.

Kevin Trudeau's advice has killed many people.

[Genecks]

I just wanted to put this out there and get some responses on this 'theory'.

 

by sun, i mean exposure to the sun.

 

I agree. There is only a correlation.

It's not a theory, because it is a claim.

And you seem to be arguing from authority.

I thought the scholastic method died...

Testimony doesn't seem like good evidence.

I'd want to see some videos of biological interactions.

Otherwise, describing the process with chemistry, biochemistry, and physics would help.

 

It's a government conspiracy to tax sunlight.

Although not relevant to skin cancer, such a thing did happen in the 1980s.

[ecoli]

I agree. There is only a correlation.

 

I'm pretty sure the cancer causing mechanism (from radiation or chemicals) is pretty well described. That would be causation, not merely correlation.

[insane_alien]

there is a very simple mechanism for UV light from the sun to cause cancer. when a UV photon hits DNA it breaks a bond or two which alters the structure and information in the DNA sometimes this leads to cancer sometimes it just leads to cell death. happens the same way with chemicals except its a chemical reaction that causes alteration of the DNA

[insane_alien]

i've just been reading up on this guy and if you follow his advice you will definitely become ill and possibly die.

 

for instance 'raising the bodies pH to kill cancer' yeah if you raise it enough your organs won't function neither will you blood and any leftover bits that i don't know the name of.

[the tree]

Woah, just read up on this guy and it's completely shaken my ideas about freedom of speech. Should he really be allowed to publish this kind of dangerous lies?

[Sayonara]

for instance 'raising the bodies pH to kill cancer' yeah if you raise it enough your organs won't function neither will you blood and any leftover bits that i don't know the name of.

 

And, in all likelihood, compounded damage due to your body desperately expending everything it can in a frantic bid to restore balance.