Sayonara Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6119428.stm I wonder if his lawyers will advise him to boycott that too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilded Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 In the picture he almost looks like he has something against the verdict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutZ Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Its about time they brought back hangings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5614 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 It's a shame they couldn't think of anything more painful, in my humble opinion. It's also seems a waste of time that they took so long coming to that decision. You can see I'm not going to become a lawyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParanoiA Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I wonder if we'll get to see the hanging. I'd like to see someone broadcast his execution like the american beheadings we witnessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane_alien Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 they should whirl him around and then fling him at a wall of spikes. that would be hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParanoiA Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 they should whirl him around and then fling him at a wall of spikes. that would be hilarious. Or maybe use that gas he used on the Kurds. Might be kinda hard to eat something after watching that though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane_alien Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 scaphism is another good option(look it up on wikipedia). days and days of fun with that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I disagree with all the bloodthirsties here. Best thing for Saddam is to put him back in his hole for the rest of his life and get over him. Public execution (especially worldwide televised) will give him more power than he's ever had before. We invaded Iraq to remove him from power so why give it back to him in the form of martyrdom? Crazies we've never even heard of will make him their poster boy. I'd much rather see a page 46 artticle about him dying quietly in solitary ten years from now. He should whimper, not roar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecoli Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I agree. I'm all for a life sentance. It's better to not make him a martyr and to be sensitive to the people in Iraq who actually liked him. (?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane_alien Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 i think he should just die a humiliating death for the entertainment of the masses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecoli Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 i think he should just die a humiliating death for the entertainment of the masses. what about the people who won't be entertained, but will be up in arms, literally to revenge the death of their fallen 'hero" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane_alien Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 still it be funny to see him beaten to death by freddie mercury impersonators wielding lollipops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted November 6, 2006 Author Share Posted November 6, 2006 what about the people who won't be entertained, but will be up in arms, literally to revenge the death of their fallen 'hero" The noise will make them easy to target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted November 6, 2006 Author Share Posted November 6, 2006 I disagree with all the bloodthirsties here. Best thing for Saddam is to put him back in his hole for the rest of his life and get over him. Public execution (especially worldwide televised) will give him more power than he's ever had before. We invaded Iraq to remove him from power so why give it back to him in the form of martyrdom? Crazies we've never even heard of will make him their poster boy. What I find entertaining is that the USA and UK have intervened in Iraq at every level for years now, righhhhht up until the point where the puppet they installed, lost control of, then toppled has been sentenced to the kind of death that both governments publicly denounce. And now all of a sudden the interventions seem to have dried up. I wonder which (if any) politicians, religious leaders, charities or organisations will risk protesting the sentence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigs mum Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 What should be remembered is that this man has been found guilty of mass genicide, something that Hitler would also have been found guilty of had he been caught. The question we must ask ourself is, would we have objected to a similar sentence had it been passed against Hitler? Not only that, but think of the financial implications for keeping Saddam Hussein in jail for life.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted November 6, 2006 Author Share Posted November 6, 2006 What you really have to remember is that brutal execution is not a punishment or a deterrent for maniacal dictators. Instead, it is a means of ensuring they are no longer a threat to whatever society they are in, and a form of retribution for the survivors. Technically speaking, he is not guilty of genocide, by the way. He may have genocidal tendencies, but he has never had the means to execute them (if you will pardon the pun). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequence Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I personnally think tht a lifetime in prison is worse then death. Sitting in a tiny room knowing you are never going to see the sun again would be worse for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigs mum Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Did he not wipe out a whole village? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted November 6, 2006 Author Share Posted November 6, 2006 Did he not wipe out a whole village? Kind of, there is a thread where the truth and myths of that incident are heatedly discussed in the depths of the politics forum. If he did wipe out a whole village, it would have to contain the entirety of a race in order to be true genocide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParanoiA Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Did he not wipe out a whole village? Dude, he's wiped out whole villages. Someone correct me here if I'm wrong, but they really only convicted him on like 148 counts of murder in Dujail from back in 1982. To try him on every murdered, tortured and raped soul would extend his lifetime, like 10 fold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blike Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 He was guilty before the trial even started. There is no way any court would have found him innocent--too much political pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecoli Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 He was guilty before the trial even started. There is no way any court would have found him innocent--too much political pressure. The key thing was what sentence would they give him. I know the appeal is not likely going to change the sentence, but we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted November 6, 2006 Author Share Posted November 6, 2006 They might be able to bargain for a longer rope or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Dude, he's wiped out whole villages. Someone correct me here if I'm wrong, but they really only convicted him on like 148 counts of murder in Dujail from back in 1982. To try him on every murdered, tortured and raped soul would extend his lifetime, like 10 fold. I don't think anyone thinks he's guiltless. For the record, as Sayonara³ points out, we had a thread where a lot of evidence was cited which showed that many of Saddam's whole village wipings-out were part of the Iraq-Iran conflict (back when he was on our side). In particular, at Halabja where 5000 Kurds were gassed there was a big question of whether the Kurds were aiding Iran. Also in question was who used the gas (it was a type normally used by Iran, not Iraq). Also, the gas used was for dispersal, trying to force enemy soldiers from fortified positions (such gasses are fatal only if you stay where the gas is). The idea is to toss in the gas and shoot anything that runs out of the smoke. My objection to the sentence is purely one of function. Publicly executed he *will* be a martyr and his crimes will be compounded by others that will be done in his name. Imprisoned for life he becomes a broken tyrant, bereft of everything a proud man would consider worthwhile. I think the latter is far more humiliating and it has the advantage of being just without meeting brutality with more brutality. What I find entertaining is that the USA and UK have intervened in Iraq at every level for years now' date=' righhhhht up until the point where the puppet they installed, lost control of, then toppled has been sentenced to the kind of death that both governments publicly denounce. And now all of a sudden the interventions seem to have dried up. I wonder which (if any) politicians, religious leaders, charities or organisations will risk protesting the sentence?[/quote']Marionettes are supposed to fall down when you cut their strings. Marionettes with oil money somehow grow a spine. Who knew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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