herme3 Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 (edited) In another thread, somebody suggested that I bring more visitors to my forum by registering as multiple users and having them talk to and argue with each other. Somebody else said I probably wouldnt be able to accomplish that because the writing styles and beliefs of my users would be too similar. I think it would be fun to see how many different personalities all of us can try to be. Ill write a few paragraphs, and pretend to be people who are completely different from me. Here I will try to be a teenage girl talking to another girl about a boyfriend… Hey girl, whats up? Jason and I had the best time last weekend! We went to the movies and then he took me out to dinner. Hes the sweetest guy I ever met, and he acts like such a gentleman. I was never really happy with any of my old boyfriends but it feels different this time. I think he might be the right guy!!! I mean, he treats me so good. I know he actually cares about me. My parents also like him, which is awesome! I just love him so much!!! Well, Ill talk to ya later! Here I will try to be a guy writing a note to a girl he likes… Hi Rebecca, how was your weekend? I hope youre not still upset about Bill. You know there are plenty of other guys out there. Youre a very beautiful girl and you deserve a guy who treats you with respect. Youre such a nice girl, so I know you can find someone. Do you think you would like to go somewhere with me this weekend? Maybe we can see a movie or something. I just wanted you to know that I really like you. If you dont want to go out with me, thats ok. I just want you to be happy. Here was my attempt to be a fundamental Christian in the other thread… Hello. I just saw this site for the first time, and I must say that your forum saddens me greatly. It appears that you do not know the love of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. You would favor the words of men instead of the Word of God, and that is a very tragic thing. My fellow Christians and I share a great concern for your soul not only in this life, but also the next. Please, do not fall into the temptation of Satan. He has planted false evidence in this world to make people believe the Word of God is false. The truth is that God is very real, and he loves you very much. Do not fall for the scheme that Satan calls "science". Always put your trust in The Bible and pray for God to lead you through your life. God will always be there for you because he created you, and because he loves you. So, do you think I did a good job with my attempts at various personalities? Lets see how many different personalities you can try to be! Edited December 8, 2010 by herme3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bascule Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 So, do you think I did a good job with my attempts at various personalities? You're good at immitating stereotypes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dak Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 ^ that's enough to fool quite a few people herme, try varying centance-length, vocabulary, level of punctuational proficiency, and centance-structure a bit more. misspelling words might also help differentiate styles, espescially if you can flit from us-en to en-en. identicle styles will give you away. eg, from the first three examples: what’s He’s I’ll you’re You’re You’re don’t He’s doesn’t stuff like that kinda gives the game away. try to vary them betwix styles, eg you're, youre, your, your'e, you'r... maybe yor if your inpersonating someone who's crap at spelling. i didn't bother counting, but the sentance-length looked pretty similar, too. your fundie one, for example, could be rewritten with uber-long sentances: Hello. I just saw this site for the first time, and I must say that your forum saddens me greatly, because it appears that you do not know the love of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, and that you would favor the words of men instead of the Word of God, and that is a very tragic thing. My fellow Christians and I share a great concern for your soul, not only in this life, but also in the next... please, do not fall into the temptation of Satan. He has planted false evidence in this world to make people believe the Word of God is false, but the truth is that God is very real, and he loves you very much. Do not fall for the scheme that Satan calls "science". Always put your trust in The Bible and pray for God to lead you through your life. God will always be there for you because he created you, and because he loves you or as a slightly less eloquent fundie, with poor grip on the purpose of punctuation: hello i just found this site and your forum makes me really sad it seems that you do not know the love of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and that you trust the words of men instead of the Word of God and that is a very sad thing me and my fellow Christians have a great concern for your soul not only in this life but also in the next. Please do not fall into the temptation of Satan!!!! He has planted false evidence in this world to make people believe the Word of God is false the truth is that God is very real and he loves you very much. Do not fall for the scheme that Satan calls science!!! Always put your trust in The Bible and pray for God to lead you through your life!!!! God will always be there for you because he created you and because he loves you hail God!!!!! whilst the above -- desciete, and, i suppose, forgery -- are allways usefull skills to have, you could allways just plonk some provokative posts in there, and hope someone answres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severian Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 herme, try varying centance-length, vocabulary, level of punctuational proficiency, and centance-structure a bit more. misspelling words might also help differentiate styles, espescially if you can flit from us-en to en-en. Does any one else find that ironic? How can you hope to vary your proficiency when you have none in the first place. Spell checkers are your friend.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dak Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 actually, i find this far more ironic: try to vary them betwix styles, eg you're, youre, your, your'e, you'r... maybe yor if your inpersonating someone who's crap at spelling. anyway, the advice was for herme, who can spell... and, afaik, i'm not too bad with punctuation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutZ Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 Severian is a big meany! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphus Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 Those were all pretty clearly written by the same person, IMO. Additionally, that person thinks women are one-dimensional robots in an after school special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequence Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 While I didn't get into as much depth as the other guy, when i finished reading them all the sounded similer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilded Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 I do a terrific L. Ron Hubbard. *AHEM* Buy my book, buy my book, BUY MY BOOK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 Severian is a big meany!Careful, now, we're still looking for someone to feed him. The last guy didn't use a long enough pole. So, do you think I did a good job with my attempts at various personalities?Um, no. Let’s see how many different personalities you can try to be!Um, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilded Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 Let’s see how many different personalities you can try to be! Actually, this might offend someone suffering from multiple personality disorder. Or at least one of him... her...? them... what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutZ Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 Careful, now, we're still looking for someone to feed him. The last guy didn't use a long enough pole. Pffft! I am not scared of him.... O_O' /me Runs away! Ok here I'll try to be....that K-Fed Guy. *puts on over used beat* I am a good rapper. I run like a snapper. Yeah Boy-ee. I make no real sense. because I am on a fence. Break it down! /me imitates white boy dance. wow spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzurePhoenix Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 While I didn't get into as much depth as the other guy, when i finished reading them all the sounded similer. I have to agree, they all had the same tone, they all rang with the same sort of non-flowy kinda hollowly plastic style and grammatical/verbal "personality" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilded Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 Lil Jon @ QM: Teacher: "...and in the mathematical formulation of quantum mechanics, each system is associated with a complex Hilbert space such that each instantaneous state of the system is described by a unit vector in that space." Lil Jon: "WHAT?" T: "Instantaneous state of the system." LJ: "WHAT?" T: "Described by a unit vector in that space." LJ: "...WHAT!?" T: "IN THAT SPACE!" LJ: "OKAAAAY!" T: "Now, I trust all have done their assignments?" LJ: "WHAT?" T: "Assignments." LJ: "WHAT?" T:"YOUR ASSIGNMENT JON! HAVE YOU DONE IT?" LJ: "YEEEEAH!" LJ: "Oh, excuse me teacher, would you care to elaborate on the particle in a box problem if you'd be so kind?" T: "Well Jon, it's a rather simple problem and the solution can be obtained by simply using the Schrödinger equation." LJ: "Ah, quite right sir! How silly of me." T: "Well, it wasn't that hard now was it?" LJ: "WHAT!?" Note: You might want to try this during your next physics lecture/class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herme3 Posted November 9, 2006 Author Share Posted November 9, 2006 misspelling words might also help differentiate styles, espescially if you can flit from us-en to en-en. Yes, I believe I am good at using us-en and en-en. I've been writing a novel, and one of the chapters is supposed to be written by someone from England in the 1800's. It is more challenging than you might think. Here is a paragraph from my novel when I'm supposed to be from England: "When I was in my younger years, I was quite orthodox. It had never occurred to me that The Bible, a book about morality, could possibly present falsehood to the world. It was, or so I thought, the flawless Word of God. I was quite content with this belief, and even had the desire to become a priest. I was told that the Lord was very loving, caring, and absolutely perfect. I never had any personal encounters with the Lord, but I had no reason to believe he was not as Christian leaders claimed. Although I had endured many hardships in my life, I had not yet been exposed to the true colours of this world. I had witnessed pain and death throughout my life, but I had never experienced their true meanings yet. Unfortunately, something very horrible was about to happen in my life. Something that is so inconceivable and dreadful that it pains me greatly just to think about it." Additionally, that person thinks women are one-dimensional robots in an after school special. What makes you say that? I think the "girls" in my first post have very dynamic personalities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 I think the "girls" in my first post have very dynamic personalities.This is why I said you lack the perspective. You simply can't see why it's wrong and no amount of explanation will help. It's not a bad thing, it's just a thing. There are many perspectives *I* lack through inexperience or temperament. I also can't sing really high notes anymore, but I'm over it. It's a limitation, not a failing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 is it just ME that can see the irony behind this? attempting to be "Other people" when they struggle enough just being themselves! *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaynos Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 Doesn't look very 1800 English to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the tree Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 me being a ninja Ninja...! PHAW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herme3 Posted November 9, 2006 Author Share Posted November 9, 2006 Doesn't look very 1800 English to me... What makes you think that? I was actually reading Charles Darwin's Origin of Species while writing this so I could make the writing style very similar. attempting to be "Other people" when they struggle enough just being themselves! I had intended this to be a fun game, not anything serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaynos Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 What makes you think that? I was actually reading Charles Darwin's Origin of Species while writing this so I could make the writing style very similar. Well I've just asked a linguist expert friend of mine, as I'm no expert it just didn't look right to me. And she sighted several things. Sentence length, they're too short. Spelling, it's too correct. Thee's etc would probably still exist at least to a certain extent. The use of the word priest. It would NOT have been used in England at the time. Your copy of the Origin of Species, is it in it's original form or edited, as nearly all older texts have been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesmudge Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 Feels like my mine is being torn away, like a tapestry and some angry Kittens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the tree Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 What makes you think that? I was actually reading Charles Darwin's Origin of Species while writing this so I could make the writing style very similar.You were reading a scientific publication and trying to emulate it's style of writing in a diary? *throws English book at Herme3*Sentence length, they're too short.Not way too short, but by far too straight forward. People speak in simple sentences, when they write, they apply some class. "My education, though not unpleasant, was deceptive, in leading me to believe that sub-ordinate and dependant clauses were not indeed synonymous. This caused me great woe, after my schooling had finished.".Spelling, it's too correct.Nothing wrong with correct spelling when you're trying to emulate the style of someone who's spelling might not have been, IMO.Thee's etc would probably still exist at least to a certain extent.I would ignore this unless you actually understand the difference in meaning between "thee" and "you". And as for "hath", just don't even try to use it outside of prose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herme3 Posted November 11, 2006 Author Share Posted November 11, 2006 Your copy of the Origin of Species, is it in it's original form or edited, as nearly all older texts have been? I'm not sure. Here is what I've been reading: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/origin.html You were reading a scientific publication and trying to emulate it's style of writing in a diary? *throws English book at Herme3* Actually, my novel is supposed to be about a lost book that was written by Charles Darwin. That's why I thought Origin of Species would be the best book to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesmudge Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Your copy of Origin of Species would have most certainly been adapted for a modern audience - they tend to be abridged, and replace most of the rubbish like 't'was' and 'how kindth thouest gentleman be, for sitting on an onion tree' . . . makes the text flow easier for the short attention span generation . . . if you've ever tried reading the original war of the worlds you'll see this. the tree is right you're mismatching genres. In the 1800's there was a very low level of people who could actually read and write only the rich and educated could even afford books, let alone read them. The Origin of Species is something of science for the eyes of people who would understand it, he uses a specialised sociolect / lexis, he uses compound sentace structures, all of this is to raise him self above his target audience so they see him with some authority and believe what he is saying. Hes aiming in a diffrerent direction to which a novel would - i hope the piece you gave us is a extract from a Darwin diary or something - else you've got a problem (no one would go looking for a lost book of darwin's whilst he was still alive especially as darwin's theorys cause so much controversy only the scientific would follow him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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