jck Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 Hi to everyone, This is my first post here, previously my views have been expressed on the closed BBC forums. I am more than happy to use speculation rather than theoretical threads which just as easily complicate simple logical ideas that deal with the very foundation of all speculation. Science cannot obtain any information prior to big bang, it cannot state that there was "no before" except for the theories that are mainstream. How that relates to no one else working through the problem in other ways I have no idea. It is speculation to consider that what came before big bang does not matter and that is very convenient for theory. Some have theoretical models prior to the creation of the universe but by there nature they represent support for the theory which comes later. To me the foundation of science dictates that every possible alternative prior to big bang be examined, for me personally it is critical because that is exactly what I did and obtained the certain alternative to "no before" which results in "some before" and that is when everything else looks flawed by comparison. I could post away here further but unless others wish to discuss this issue then there is little point so I will wait a while and see if there are any replies. best wishes, john jck
mr d Posted December 12, 2006 Posted December 12, 2006 Hello Take issue with the phrase utterly wrong. A theory can be speculative, imaginative, or fly in the face of conventially accepted theories and ideas in science. But by the fact they are theories they are not wrong. Scientifically incorrect, or faulty based on given reasons; but a theory is just a theory. I think a better phrasing would be 'challenge or have no basis in currently accepted science theories, laws, or emperical data'. To simply refer to them as wrong indicates that you (collective) have closed your mind to new ideas in obeyance to current dogma. Mr D - Card carrying member of the lunatic fringe.
swansont Posted December 13, 2006 Posted December 13, 2006 No, many of them are demonstrably wrong, and have been demonstrated to be so. Many other posts are simply not theories.
jck Posted December 13, 2006 Author Posted December 13, 2006 Thanks for moving my initial posting as this happened when I originally joined and was not sure where to post which topic. The forums are well organised and there seems to be a place for everyone providing they keep to reasonable guidelines. john jck
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