eqino Posted January 6, 2004 Posted January 6, 2004 i was just wondering where do scientist and other researchers get their ideas and inspirations from. when i mean inspiration ...its like a spark of idea ...... i read that there might be a higher consciousness at work . what do u think ...............is there a so called higher consciousness at work .?
YT2095 Posted January 6, 2004 Posted January 6, 2004 I`m not sure about "Higher" but certainly a Different type of consciousness that`s within each of us, that allows us to peice together little bits of seemingly unrellated data into a workable idea, that then springs forwards into our minds and we have a "Eureka" moment, usualy coupled with "Why didn`t I think of that before"
eqino Posted January 7, 2004 Author Posted January 7, 2004 Why didn`t I think of that before heh well then what about einstien ?? he was sitting on a hill jus imagining stuff ......he did not have any knowledge on that subject...... for some reason he began to imagine that he was riding a sun beam ....... and then returned to the same spot in spacetime......... he being a "special" person somehow knew that.... the idea was the true and went along to prove it. it seems like the idea jus entered his brain maybe it was meant to be there, maybe it was 'little bits of seemingly unrellated data into a workable idea' , maybe someone put it there........... i believe that somehow something or someone put it there..
eqino Posted January 7, 2004 Author Posted January 7, 2004 yeah , and i read this sometime ago .......... sometimes when a scientist discovers something or finds a new theory ............... another scientist also comes up with the same theory almost immeadiately ( this other scientist did not have any known contact with the first scientist who discovered the idea)..... the book said that when one person gets an idea in a certain way.......he accesses a higher consciousness and creates a path . so now its easier for another scientist to access the same idea even if he has no contact with the person who discover the idea. ???
JaKiri Posted January 11, 2004 Posted January 11, 2004 eqino said in post #3 :Why didn`t I think of that before heh well then what about einstien ?? he was sitting on a hill jus imagining stuff ......he did not have any knowledge on that subject...... for some reason he began to imagine that he was riding a sun beam ....... and then returned to the same spot in spacetime......... he being a "special" person somehow knew that.... the idea was the true and went along to prove it. it seems like the idea jus entered his brain maybe it was meant to be there, maybe it was 'little bits of seemingly unrellated data into a workable idea' , maybe someone put it there........... i believe that somehow something or someone put it there.. Personally, I believe he was a physics graduate working on a subject that much research had been done into, in his plentiful spare time (his job at the patent office didn't require much activity)
JaKiri Posted January 11, 2004 Posted January 11, 2004 eqino said in post #4 :yeah , and i read this sometime ago .......... sometimes when a scientist discovers something or finds a new theory ............... another scientist also comes up with the same theory almost immeadiately ( this other scientist did not have any known contact with the first scientist who discovered the idea)..... the book said that when one person gets an idea in a certain way.......he accesses a higher consciousness and creates a path . so now its easier for another scientist to access the same idea even if he has no contact with the person who discover the idea. ??? That's more because the research that leads up to the situation is in the public domain, and so more people are likely to be researching into it. If you compare common research with true leaps of genius (see: Andrew Wiles and the Fermat proof) you'll see such things are less common, uncommon enough to be mere products of chance.
eqino Posted January 11, 2004 Author Posted January 11, 2004 yeah ...that surely answers a couple of questions but...... "uncommon enough to be mere products of chance. " how would u define "products of chance "?? was he just lucky??? then again ....how would u define luck?? is it possible that this comes from somewhere ......... i believe that everything can be explained but how would u explain "chance"?
-Demosthenes- Posted January 21, 2004 Posted January 21, 2004 I don't see how there is any question. If you think about it, it makes logical sense. Go to this thread, It's crazy.
JaKiri Posted January 22, 2004 Posted January 22, 2004 eqino said in post # :but how would u explain "chance"? (probability of event|situation) Such as rolling a die. The chance of getting a 1 (on a fair die) is 1/6. Chance is a vital thing in science; it's only by calculating the error of an experiment, and the chance of it happening without changing the hypothesis, that anything ever gets done
YT2095 Posted January 22, 2004 Posted January 22, 2004 serendipity(sp?) I beleive it`s called. and that has worked for me in my scientific persuits above once, even though humble by comparison to other work being done, I cannot ignore the fact that pure chance has indeed played a part in some of MY greatest discoveries. Chance is a valid factor
Sayonara Posted January 23, 2004 Posted January 23, 2004 Serendipity is when you accidentally discover something, while looking for something else. For example; while looking around the flat for your car keys you come across a lost Aztec temple in the linen cupboard. What a serendipitous event!
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