Preston Taist Posted May 9, 2003 Posted May 9, 2003 My apologys if it came accross that i was attacking anyone. I assure you all that i meant only to stimulate conversation, if I have offended anyone i am sorry.
JaKiri Posted May 9, 2003 Posted May 9, 2003 Originally posted by Preston Taist I look forward to your responce. Well, for a start I'd suggest you find out what you're talking about; the Cosmological Constant refers to something different than the simple expansion of the universe, and the writing in those verses implies something different; just because the word 'stretching' is used doesn't mean the verse implies an expanding universe. Secondly, the Pope has referred to the Big Bang theory as canon. This would imply that the Roman Catholic Church disagrees with the exact text of the bible. Thirdly, I'll find some more sections that disagree with measured fact in time, but until then I'll leave you with Genesis 3:14, which suggests that snakes eat dust.
Radical Edward Posted May 9, 2003 Posted May 9, 2003 Originally posted by Preston Taist But in light of your comments i will submit to you that there is nothing in the Bible that contredicts any major aspect of modern physics. how about the earth having four corners and there being a mountain from which you can see everything and the rain coming from opening doors in the firmament.
Preston Taist Posted May 9, 2003 Posted May 9, 2003 Thank you for putting thought into your relpy. This is nice.( I mean this politly. i am not trying to insult anyone.) While you contened that the verses in the aforementioned do not necessarily refer to universal expansion, I would disagree. When one reads these vercese in context with the chapters they are contained in, one could certainly contened that the "stretching" they refer to is the expacion we see today. I think it would be interesting if you would mention what you think this stretching refers to in the text.(again, im not trying to insite anything). Snakes eating dust is quite obviously used here figuratively to emphasise the fact that snakes were to crawl on the ground. I think that the Pope might not speak for all christians, especialy those that aren't Roman Catholic. So perhaps the disagreement that the Pope has with the Bible shouldn't be submitted as a view that the whole of the church holds. Please write back. Edward, where is that found in the text? so i can look it up. what book at least.
JaKiri Posted May 9, 2003 Posted May 9, 2003 Originally posted by Preston Taist Snakes eating dust is quite obviously used here figuratively to emphasise the fact that snakes were to crawl on the ground. Exactly my point. You're taking it to mean something that is not it's literal meaning, thus.
Radical Edward Posted May 10, 2003 Posted May 10, 2003 Originally posted by Preston Taist Snakes eating dust is quite obviously used here figuratively to emphasise the fact that snakes were to crawl on the ground. what is obvious and what isn't
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