Neurocomp2003 Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 Does anyone know where i can find anything about the FCPs especially the quantity of each 4 in an atom or gravitational system. Also does anyone know of any large scale experiments to detect lots of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKiri Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 Looking at a light would be a good way to detect lots of photons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Edward Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 CERN and so on might be a good example too. most of these would not be photons though, mostly the strong and weak force carriers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Mattson Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 Neurocomp2003 said in post # :Does anyone know where i can find anything about the FCPs A good place to start would be The Particle Adventure. Thumb through it until you get to "The Standard Model", and start paying attention there. especially the quantity of each 4 in an atom or gravitational system. This would be an impossible question to answer. Also does anyone know of any large scale experiments to detect lots of them Force carrying particles cannot be detected. Their existence is inferred from their effects (collisions, annihilations, and decays). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKiri Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 Tom said in post # :Force carrying particles cannot be detected. Their existence is inferred from their effects (collisions, annihilations, and decays). That's a nonsensical statement, because by definition the only way we can sense anything is through the force carriers, and therefore you're denying that the word 'detection' has any meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 "Also does anyone know of any large scale experiments to detect lots of them" Sure, the seti radio telescopes or that really huge one dug into valley. the Solar heater array in the USA. all these are MONDO LARGE scale detection and users of FCPs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Mattson Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 Tom: Force carrying particles cannot be detected. Their existence is inferred from their effects (collisions, annihilations, and decays). MrL_JaKiri: That's a nonsensical statement, because by definition the only way we can sense anything is through the force carriers, and therefore you're denying that the word 'detection' has any meaning. Not at all. Real photons are detected all the time, be it with a photographic plate or a photoelectric cell or. It is quite impossible to detect virtual photons in that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Mattson Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 YT2095 said in post # :"Also does anyone know of any large scale experiments to detect lots of them" Sure, the seti radio telescopes or that really huge one dug into valley. the Solar heater array in the USA. all these are MONDO LARGE scale detection and users of FCPs In what experiment has, for instance, a photon with a nonzero invariant mass ever been detected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neurocomp2003 Posted February 7, 2004 Author Share Posted February 7, 2004 "the particle adventure" is to basic...i went through it in 2-3 hours. i need something more complex. I've been trying to find papers. esp. on xxx.lanl.gov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Mattson Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 Neurocomp2003 said in post # :"the particle adventure" is to basic...i went through it in 2-3 hours. i need something more complex. I've been trying to find papers. esp. on xxx.lanl.gov. How about this one? Standard Model: An Introduction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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