psynapse Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Imagine what a community that was solely devoted to the progress of science, like the Vatican but for science. No laws other than the ones that people in Science City (vote?) on. What kind of laws should be implemented? A Spartan survival of the fittest, or should it be moral and take ethics into account. Would it turn into an evil sadistic world? Would Science City build an army, should they? How about people that would not join this city, are they a threat? Comments? I am all for a Science City that was harsh barren and cold, deviod of all human touch. As long as we had the arts I wouldn't mind, Enough human touch for me. Keep the soft sciences as well, they aren't too bad. I am unsure how the politics would go, probably try to go with what's best for the citizens. Unsure what that would actually entale. Mandatory Mating of course. How about the environment? I think we should be incredible conscientious about the environment, in Science city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphus Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 So like a sovereign university...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psynapse Posted March 23, 2007 Author Share Posted March 23, 2007 Unsure. Perhaps. It owuld have to be self sustaining though. So it would need more than campus security etc.. I was reading the animal rights and vivisection debates and realized that one of the punishments for breaking the law should be death after scientific experimentation has been carried out. That would certainly keep people form breaking the law or tighten the law up because you could always use more test subjects:-) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharonY Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 I am all for a Science City that was harsh barren and cold, deviod of all human touch. What the heck would that have to do with science? Moreover In case you didn't notice, scientists are all humans, too. Ohter than that at least in Singapore and Japan science cities have been established. Although I am quite sure it was not what you had in mind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psiji Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 This reminds me of that South Park episode where Richard Dawkins and "miss" Garrison eliminate religion; science controls the future, and everyone is killing each other over whose version of science is correct... Anyhow, I love the idea, I just can't imagine how well it would work. I imagine nonstop arguments about what's the most logical way to do things (i.e. what's the most logical way to drink coffee). Everything would be set up for practical value, rather than aesthetic value, which could be quite boring. It would be interesting though. The average IQ would probably be in the 120s, and over time due to select breeding of individuals with higher IQs, I can see the average peaking in the 140-160s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphus Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 I still don't understand what you're proposing. A city-state whose primary industry is scientific research? How do you go from THAT to "harsh, barren, and cold, devoid of all human touch?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psynapse Posted March 23, 2007 Author Share Posted March 23, 2007 OK, Ok not hash and barren, I am just trying to point out the extent to which I would be devoted, Of course we can always put nice things there too. I was thinking of a more Utilitarian approach where everything done should cause net benefit to the society. Would we share with the rest of the world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genecks Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 Oh, wow! That's such a great idea. I know what we should do. We should create a system for these new boxes with wires and electronics in them. I think we'll have a way of transmitting messages to tons of them. We could set up signals and wires to allow people to communicate. Yeah, that would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MolotovCocktail Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 I think the city should be located in space, so that we can do experiments that would be otherwise impossible on Earth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharonY Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Like trying to wipe puke in 0 g? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 I hate compound mentality. Without diversity there you get stagnation. A science-only city might be prolific for a while but after a few generations all those like-minded people would probably end up with zero creativity. It seems intellectually incestuous somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Man Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 i think the only difference between a "science city" and a normal city would be the mind set of the people and the availability of materials, tools and information. edit: and also the complete abscence of soap opera. it would be a place for the insatiably curious and the obsessive tinkerers. some how i don't think it would last long without fine arts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnF Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 I think such a city would be a disaster for science. Science should be open and available to everyone regardless of their understanding. Scientists, engineers, inventors, theoreticians, etc. should be close to every aspect of society. Closing a community off would remove a lot of potentially good input. The observations people make in their everyday life can lead to new ideas and solutions to problems. People outside of the scientific community would begin to distrust scientists. Science should really become more open to both the non-scientific community and perhaps even within the scientific community. For all we know the answer to nuclear fusion could be held between a biochemist, a physicist and a bread maker; but they will never talk to each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecoli Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Kind of sounds like the NIH in Bethesda, Maryland. Amazing place. It's like a small city full of scientists (and administrators to keep them under control). ... And none of them have to write grants :-O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psynapse Posted April 22, 2007 Author Share Posted April 22, 2007 Thanks I will look it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Who would clean the toilets, wash the dishes everything to keep the scientists clean and healthy? Machines/robots, who would keep them in good repair, maybe AIs? but maybe they would evolve and get rid of the humans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psynapse Posted April 23, 2007 Author Share Posted April 23, 2007 You are probably right Velo, but it would be fun while it lasted Animatrix style war between humans and machines in science city would be just what the doctor ordered. Humans united for one common goal; survival. Toilets would just simply clean themselves. How you might ask? Answer: magic or some automated cleaning system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Man Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 you can buy self cleaning toilets... i'd be more concerned about poor igor having to tidy the lab after a few hundred mad scientists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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