grifter Posted March 29, 2007 Posted March 29, 2007 Well I have a feeling this is gunna be a headache to answer !!! any help would be sooooooooooooo apreciated: I'm in the process of working out the thrust produced by a rocket, I'm using the following equation: (i apologise for not using latex) Fg=Mdot x Ve + Ae(Pe-Pamb) where: Mdot = Exhaust gas mass flow Ve = Jet velocity at nozzle exit plane Ae = Flow area at nozzle exit plane Pe = Static pressure at nozzle exit plane Pamb = Atmospheric pressure (101.325 kPa) I can get Mdot with: (A star * pt/sqrt[Tt]) * sqrt(gam/R) * [(gam + 1)/2]^-[(gam + 1)/(gam -1)/2] where: Astar = the area of the throat. pt = the total pressure in the combustion chamber, Tt = the total temperature in the combustion chamber, gam = the ratio of specific heats of the exhaust, R = the gas constant. (8.314472(15) J • K-1 • mol-1 I can calculate the exit pressure (pe) and exit temperature (Te) from the isentropic relations at the nozzle exit: pe / pt = [1 + Me^2 * (gam-1)/2]^-[gam/(gam-1)] Te / Tt = [1 + Me^2 * (gam-1)/2]^-1 once i've got Te i can calculate the exhaust exit velocity (Ve) with Ve = Me * sqrt (gam * R * Te) and then its back to: F = mdot * Ve + (pe - 101.325 kPa) * Ae any aprox Values for the above would help sooo much !!! and any actuall examples or work-through would also be a mahoosive help!!! Thanks guys
D H Posted March 29, 2007 Posted March 29, 2007 The force varies a lot depending on the size of the rocket. The specific impulse of a rocket is a lot less size-dependent: [math]I_{sp} \equiv \frac F{\dot m g_0} = \frac 1{g_0} \left(v_e + (p_e-p_{\infty})\frac {A_e}{\dot m}\right)[/math] Some numbers (BIG thrusters): Shuttle main engine (three engines on the vehicle): Vacuum force = 2170 kN per engine Vacuum Isp=453 secs Chamber pressure: 18.9 MPal Soyuz 1st stage (four engines on the vehicle): Vacuum force = 991 kN per engine Vacuum Isp=310 secs Chamber pressure: 5.85 MPal
grifter Posted March 30, 2007 Author Posted March 30, 2007 thats great, I will use that But does anyone have any, even rough, values for the following (as being a few thousand pounds of thrust out isn't a real issue, don't feel that the values need to be correct, so long as they are accurate so when they are put in the equation I will get an answer to the correct power of 10!!) Mdot = Exhaust gas mass flow Ve = Jet velocity at nozzle exit plane Ae = Flow area at nozzle exit plane Pe = Static pressure at nozzle exit plane Pamb = Atmospheric pressure (101.325 kPa) Thanks
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