greg1917 Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Scientists said on Wednesday they had created a new form of matter and predicted it could help lead to the next generation of superconductors for use in electricity generation, more efficient trains and countless other applications. The new matter form is called a fermionic condensate and it is the sixth known form of matter -- after gases, solids, liquids, plasma and a Bose-Einstein condensate, created only in 1995. Yahoo news report Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 And.. does it have uses? No! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg1917 Posted January 30, 2004 Author Share Posted January 30, 2004 Did you bother reading the actual news report? Dont make grand stataments about something you obviosuly have nowher near the ability to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 It itself has no use, it can be developed to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg1917 Posted January 30, 2004 Author Share Posted January 30, 2004 And.. does it have uses? No! In what way are you anywhere near qualified to assume (and its only an assumption, unless you're willing to explain the precise intacacies of this exact discovery) that this form of matter has no uses? Based on a sinlge news report (and a yahoo one I might add) you've claimed its pointless. Elaborate or at least explain you're rejection of what looks like an important breakthrough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skye Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 A more detailed link: http://www.physicstoday.org/vol-56/iss-10/pdf/vol52no10p17-18.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 "Jin stressed her team worked with a supercooled gas, which provides little opportunity for everyday application." There we go. It has no practical use UNTIL they develop it further. I was talking about their specific gas, not this new matter as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 I'd consider research into one of the biggest breakthroughs in the field to be a pretty good practical use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 if only as a stepping stone to furter advancemet and understanding of other things, it`s goto have SOME use it`s a bit like super conductors, there more or less useless out the lab (although my Dr. has made significant progress in this feild). one day they`ll be in every household as sure as TV and radio sets and computers are now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aommaster Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 well, is this actually related to the 'states' of matter? If yes, then what is the fifth one? of not, what are the other five? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 Gas, Liquid, Solid, Plasma, Bose-Einstein Condensate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo2011 Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 Cool. In response to first few posts, Plasma didn't have any use 20-25 years ago!!! So now there are six? Do we have any knowledge that there are more? If so, how many? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 If there were more, there'd be more than just six. That's why there are only six. That's all we know about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aommaster Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 sorry i couldn't reply earlier...forgot about it!!! what on earth is Bose-Einstein Condensate??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfson Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 Bose-Einstein condensates form from matter that has been cooled to near absolute zero. (APP 2002) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aommaster Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 so, it is just matter at absolute zero? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg1917 Posted February 4, 2004 Author Share Posted February 4, 2004 No one has ever cooled matter to absolute zero. "In a Bose-Einstein condensate, a cloud of atoms is cooled to temperatures a few billionths of a degree above absolute zero, at which point the quantum mechanical waves of the atoms can merge. The result is a coherent cloud of atoms that acts like a single macroscopic particle but obeys the microscopic laws of quantum physics." http://www.esi-topics.com/bose/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 just out of curiousity, could that matarial be made to Lase? Sounds like it would pack quite a punch if it could be vented properly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 Yes it could, but then it would be heated up, and nobody wants that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alvloh Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 wat is plasma anyway ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aommaster Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 well, it is when you heat something to EXTREMELY HIGH temperatures that the atoms' nuclei and their electrons separate. Its like a soup! 99% of the universe is made up of it (amazingly) becasuse stars are made up of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfson Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 An electrically neutral, highly ionized gas composed of ions, electrons, and neutral particles. (APP 2002) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aommaster Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 what more... it has A LOT of energy (this causes the electrons to part from the nucleus!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 could have uses in the future......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aommaster Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 i think it does already ummm... i think it is used in fluorecent light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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