hercule Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 I need help about Pt thin film or nano wire electric resistance. Because the thickness is in nanometer (~30nm), I think the resistance formula (R = p*l/s) is unusable. Please help me. If any material about that is available, please share with me. Thanks alot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 do you have the Rho number for Pt? you can`t do Squat without that edit: take a look here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_resistivity it has a Rho table also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hercule Posted May 19, 2007 Author Share Posted May 19, 2007 Pt's Rho number is not my difficulty. Because Pt nano wire or thin film just has several molecules on their horizontal section, I think we have to apply modern physics here, not classical one. Is it right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 it still applies, you need to work it out for a Wire the thickness of the film. then multiply that by the width. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 The problem here is that the bulk resistivity doesn't have the same meaning for a nanowire or thin film. There are far more interactions with the surface of the material, where the electrons might behave differently. A lot of properties of thin film or nanowire materials are different where finite size and quantum interactions are important. But I can't help with the OP. Not familiar with the calculations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaynos Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 it still applies, you need to work it out for a Wire the thickness of the film.then multiply that by the width. Unfortunatly not. Because the film is so thin, you have to consider it as a 2d system with the electron gas. But I can't recall the formula off of the top of my head. Or even whether 60nm is thin enough, I think that this might be ok to use resistivity. I've done some resistance measurements on 50nm thick bismouth, using hall coeficients to find the resistivity. The equation used there was: [math]\sigma = \frac {2lnx}{\pi t (R_{ab,cd}+R_{bc,da})}[/math] Where R is the resistance between contacts on the sameple, t is the thickness, and x is the solution to a weird equation I don't seem to be able to find right now. This experiment gave me better results the thiner the sample was which implies it might be a 2D one. But the 2Dness is the key here to working out what you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 I stand corrected then, it would seem what works (and is indeed used for flat conductors) doesn`t apply at this thinness. I`ll be watching this thread myself then, looks to be some neat new stuff for me to learn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaynos Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 A couple of my friend are doing some work on it... I can't quite remember what they're investigating though, I know an offshot is the quantum hall effect.... If I get a chance I'll have a look for some papers on it later... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 cool, the only thing I`m partly familiar with as an application is Solar Panel technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hercule Posted May 23, 2007 Author Share Posted May 23, 2007 My Pt nanowire is 30 nm thick x 50 nm wide x 70 um long. That means the thickness has 80 molecules. There are many documents about semiconductor nanowire (in FET - field effect transistor ) but Pt is not a semiconductor. And I think that 80 molecules thick nanowire is not suitable for the theory of quantized (quantum) conductance, for instance the theory of Persson about the conductance change per adsorbate molecule : G: conductance d: thickness F: width of r(e) ( the density of states of the adsorbed molecules at the Fermi energy of the metal) What formula can I apply for my Pt nanowire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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