the tree Posted August 21, 2007 Posted August 21, 2007 What do you mean by believing in any kind of number? There's no more reason to believe in 4 than ∞. And what do you mean by no useful quantities? Infinity maybe a quantity if of itself (the quantity of rational numbers is countably infinite etc.) but it doesn't mean anything for it to "have a quantity".
JackMuChabas Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 True. I believe then infinity sign = unknown.
the tree Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 Why? Infinity is pretty well defined in my book. I know exactly what it means, I know what it means in the context of limits, I know what it means in the context of cardinalities and I know what it means simply as a number. You can probably get all of that from just reading this thread. How can such a thoroughly defined number be unknown?
insane_alien Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 well, if infinity is unknown then 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9.... > infinity, must be equally unknown as they are equally or less defined.
JackMuChabas Posted August 25, 2007 Posted August 25, 2007 Perhaps I am engaging in semantics, I understand your argument, but unless a problem can be calculated to infinitum what real purpose does is have?
the tree Posted August 25, 2007 Posted August 25, 2007 As you really should have already gathered, uses for infinity are: For calculating limits: [math]\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{2^n}=2[/math] And describing cardinalities: [math]|\mathbb{N}|=\aleph_0[/math] (the cardinality of the set of natural numbers is countably infinite). And other things besides.
ydoaPs Posted August 26, 2007 Posted August 26, 2007 if there's a positive infinity, can there be a negative infinity? Sure there is. Take the graph of y=1/x and approach 0 from the negative side.
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