the tree Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 What do you mean by believing in any kind of number? There's no more reason to believe in 4 than ∞. And what do you mean by no useful quantities? Infinity maybe a quantity if of itself (the quantity of rational numbers is countably infinite etc.) but it doesn't mean anything for it to "have a quantity". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackMuChabas Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 True. I believe then infinity sign = unknown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the tree Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Why? Infinity is pretty well defined in my book. I know exactly what it means, I know what it means in the context of limits, I know what it means in the context of cardinalities and I know what it means simply as a number. You can probably get all of that from just reading this thread. How can such a thoroughly defined number be unknown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane_alien Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 well, if infinity is unknown then 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9.... > infinity, must be equally unknown as they are equally or less defined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackMuChabas Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 Perhaps I am engaging in semantics, I understand your argument, but unless a problem can be calculated to infinitum what real purpose does is have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the tree Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 As you really should have already gathered, uses for infinity are: For calculating limits: [math]\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{2^n}=2[/math] And describing cardinalities: [math]|\mathbb{N}|=\aleph_0[/math] (the cardinality of the set of natural numbers is countably infinite). And other things besides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ydoaPs Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 if there's a positive infinity, can there be a negative infinity? Sure there is. Take the graph of y=1/x and approach 0 from the negative side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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