Cap'n Refsmmat Posted February 9, 2004 Posted February 9, 2004 Wasn't there a virus' life thing in another thread where we said it WAS alive, because of homeostatis?
Sayonara Posted February 9, 2004 Posted February 9, 2004 Cap'n Refsmmat said in post # :Wasn't there a virus' life thing in another thread where we said it WAS alive, because of homeostatis? The thread was there, yes. Viruses DON'T have any homeostatic system though.
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted February 9, 2004 Posted February 9, 2004 According to RadE, they are a "gray area", and are in the middle. I don't care, as long as I don't get too many of them in me, like my brother right now.
Sayonara Posted February 9, 2004 Posted February 9, 2004 Yes, but not because they have a homeostatic system. Because they don't have a homeostatic system.
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted February 9, 2004 Posted February 9, 2004 Let's not argue about it, it already has been. So hows tapeworms for everybody? Or, even better, LICE!
Sayonara Posted February 9, 2004 Posted February 9, 2004 We're not arguing. You posted an irrelevant question, I answered it, you posted something else irrelevant that had nothing to do with my answer or the thread. Where's the argument? Lice suck.
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted February 9, 2004 Posted February 9, 2004 I would have to agree, but without knowing, because I never have had them. Yay! Ticks, mosquitoes, no-see-ums, there are plenty out there.
JaKiri Posted February 9, 2004 Posted February 9, 2004 Sayonara³ said in post # :Lice suck. Not as much as leaches
Sayonara Posted February 9, 2004 Posted February 9, 2004 At least someone made it to the finishing line.
invisiblebrain Posted April 22, 2004 Posted April 22, 2004 I'm fairly certain it's caused by fungus. ringworm is a missinomer.its coused by fungus,but clinically the leisoin looks like a worm burrowing inside ,hence called ring worm
invisiblebrain Posted April 22, 2004 Posted April 22, 2004 this i think is the most deadly and it is rampant in the tropics.its multiplicative and survival capacities are hardly hidden by the statistics and u know what,it acquiring drug resistance.heard of bacteria acquiring it but a parasite and its fatal if u dont cure,have u ever had malaria?try it ones ull come to know
Skye Posted April 22, 2004 Posted April 22, 2004 There's the odd outbreak of dengue fever around where I live, which is one of those delightful hemorrhagic fevers. We had to identify some mosquitoes in a class the other day and one was Aedes aegypti which carries it. Die you evil bastards, die! I personally like blood flukes, the female lives inside the male, now that's a close relationship. Ba-da-boom!
felinlasv Posted May 11, 2004 Posted May 11, 2004 Just think of the bacteria 'living' on your skin that make sure that the pH of your skin is around 5 and kept stable so that your skin is too acid for other micro-organisms to grow on it. If you wash yourself too much and kill those bacteria you'll be fucked over way worse by other bacteria and fungi Not all things living on us are bad..
admiral_ju00 Posted May 13, 2004 Posted May 13, 2004 my favorite parasites are humans. more specifically the human female
Sayonara Posted May 13, 2004 Posted May 13, 2004 We are if you consider how we treat the earth No. That's not parasitism. It's not some vague term you can bandy about at anything you think is badness; it has a specific biological meaning.
admiral_ju00 Posted May 13, 2004 Posted May 13, 2004 Is that a bribe? not what i had in mind, but why? you want some? while i realize i can go in depth why i feel human can be related and or called parasites, but i won't and instead give this par·a·site ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pr-st) n. 1) Biology. An organism that grows, feeds, and is sheltered on or in a different organism while contributing nothing to the survival of its host. 2) a. One who habitually takes advantage of the generosity of others without making any useful return. b. One who lives off and flatters the rich; a sycophant. 3) A professional dinner guest, especially in ancient Greece. courtesy of dictionary.com.
Sayonara Posted May 13, 2004 Posted May 13, 2004 You're countering with a copy 'n' paste from dictionary.com? That's just insulting. A dictionary definition (even one giving a quick version of its so-called "biology definition") is no substitute for the actual biological definition, believe me. Even if I were to subscribe to your definition, which I don't (since it doesn't actually mention many of the defining characteristics of parasites), you'd still have to show conclusively that Earth is an organism.
admiral_ju00 Posted May 13, 2004 Posted May 13, 2004 that's just filthy. out of all the people in this thread who said pretty much the same thing, you've managed to make me want to explain myself. rofl
admiral_ju00 Posted May 13, 2004 Posted May 13, 2004 par·a·site ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pr-st)n. 1) Biology. An organism that grows, feeds, and is sheltered on or in a different organism while contributing nothing to the survival of its host. let's start with this and move on. An organism that grows, feeds, and is sheltered on or in a different organism yes, yes, yes and yes. the last one being the Gaya Hypothesis. contributing nothing to the survival of its host maybe not nothing, but contributins small or insignificant may be a better term to replace 'nothing'. we've conqured the whole planet, other animals - including ourselves. we've destroyed entire ecosystems - land(defforestation, ocean or land oil spills), and animal and even humans were wiped out because we thought that we had the right(by god in many cases) to do so. we use and usurp things that have been created by nature w/o it being specifically created for us(but we think we do and that it does belong to us) such as fossil fuels, metals, crystals, etc. we've significantly contributed to the greenhouse effect, as a matter of fact, we've created a whole new means of things that contribute to the global warming. nuclear and biological weapons test sites, etc. introduced unnatural object to the ocean such as the sunken ships and vessels of all kinds and types. etc. destroyed the hunter-gatherer societies, destroyed the human values and came up with new one. advances in medicine by means of obtaining the materiel from the world about us. constantly and significantly adding more goodness to our landfills, erected unnatural structures eg: buildings, cities, etc. on top of all that, we now have our sights on space. sending lots and lots of junk to space, etc. what have we done to replace or replenish many of these things we've destroyed? can we bring back from the dead many of the animal and plant species we've destroyed? how about humans - aka. native americans? hence the word that will best cover everything we've done to reprimand our mistakes is minute as compared to all the damage we've done for thousands of years. need i go on? oh and by the way, please do not label me as a 'tree huger' 'cause i'm not and i've made some contributions myself and still make 'em.
Sayonara Posted May 13, 2004 Posted May 13, 2004 I know exactly what you mean, and I wouldn't go as far as to label you as being a 'tree hugger' just on that evidence (I assume you mean "one who has unreasonably idealistic demands that can be easily dismissed", rather than "one who hugs trees"). I'm just saying that 'parasitism' is the wrong word. Because it is. Biology as a discipline does not recognise the Gaya hypothesis, and what we've done to earth is not relevant if earth is not an organism. If it were there'd be no differentiation between our use of resources and the resource consumption of other species, and everything would be a parasite. Then we'd need a new word for describing the action of what we currently call parasites.
Dave Posted May 13, 2004 Posted May 13, 2004 Humans aren't parasites. You lose I think you need to make an exception for the female of the species tbh (my gf is gonna kill me now)
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