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Here's an interesting little chart I stumbled on

 

 

Chart.jpg

 

 

Looks like the guys camped out demonstrating at the airports should be hanging around the forests and coal / gas fired power stations instead !

 

:doh:

Posted

Both better than sitting in front of a computer in your air-conditioned house, it seems. Especially if you go there by bike. It would (for several reasons) be nice having a link to where you found the chart, though.

Posted

What's the source on that graph?

 

Here's another:

 

Global_Carbon_Emission_by_Type.png

 

This is from:

 

Marland, G., T.A. Boden, and R. J. Andres (2003). "Global, Regional, and National CO2 Emissions" in Trends: A Compendium of Data on Global Change. Oak Ridge, Tenn., U.S.A.: Carbon Dioxide Information Analysis Center, Oak Ridge National Laboratory, U.S. Department of Energy.

Posted
What's the source on that graph?

 

Icemelt's chart is from the IPCC AR4 document

 

The UK government used this type of information to impose additional taxes on air travellers

 

The camp at Heathrow includes protestors from other countries. I'm pretty sure they didn't get to Heathrow on their bicycles

 

What would be interesting is natural CO2 emissions were overlaid, so we could see exactly where all the CO2 was coming from and how it compared with man made emissions

Posted

"What would be interesting is natural CO2 emissions were overlaid, so we could see exactly where all the CO2 was coming from and how it compared with man made emissions"

Well, the CO2 levels used to be constant at about 300 ppm, now they are rising.

It's fair to assume that the difference is due to mankind. If that's true then the net contribution from natural sources is nil.

 

Pointing out that the fraction of CO2 emisions from air transport is fairly small is one thing. Recognising that it is due to the actions of a relatively small number of people is another.

Posted
"What would be interesting is natural CO2 emissions were overlaid, so we could see exactly where all the CO2 was coming from and how it compared with man made emissions"

Well, the CO2 levels used to be constant at about 300 ppm, now they are rising.

 

Any idea how that translates to Gt CO2 used in the chart?

Posted

Natural CO2 emissions are absorbed by climate sinks. Climate sinks are basically negative feedback systems. Over half of all anthropogenic CO2 emissions are being absorbed by the same sinks.

 

 

Btw bascule your graph only shows fossil fuel CO2 which doesn't represent net anthropogenic CO2 production.

Posted
What's the source on that graph?

 

My apologies for the omission see:

 

http://www.mnp.nl/ipcc/pages_media/FAR4docs/chapters/CH1_Introduction.pdf

 

Chapter 1, Page 13

 

Better be quick, since I suspect this unacceptable data will be supressed shortly !

 

(Just a passing comment to antagonize the easily inflamed)

 

:eyebrow:

 

(However somebody please prove me wrong by posting a live link to this chart in six months)

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