John Cuthber Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 I can't help thinking that the real benefit will come once we get everyone else to sign up to some sort of ethical code. Why pick on scientists? As far as I know we are not particularly unethical to start with. A code of ethics for politicians would achieve far more.
ParanoiA Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 A code of ethics for politicians would achieve far more. Ooh, I like that one.
geoguy Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 Here they are:- Act with skill and care, keep skills up to date - Prevent corrupt practice and declare conflicts of interest - Respect and acknowledge the work of other scientists - Ensure that research is justified and lawful - Minimise impacts on people, animals and the environment -Discuss issues science raises for society -Do not mislead; present evidence honestly what about -Eat five servings of fruits and vegetables every day? -Don't forget to wash behind the ears? 'ensure your research is justified and lawful' !!!!!! what the 'f' does that have to do with being a good scientist? 'Hey, Hans, I know your real name is Jacob and you are breaking the law by not reporting to the Gestapo and I'm breaking the law letting you work on a cure for polio'. 'discuss issues science raises for society';....PLEASE!!!!! 'Yes, litte Johnny. There is no god and you are an ignorant little boy if you believe such crap your parents teach you. I'm raising this issue to show you that your parents are idiots believing in such mythologies and don't ever believe another word they say on the matter".
Pangloss Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 Politicians already have one. It's called the oath of office. (Fat lot of good that's done, huh?)
john5746 Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 There seems to be a measure of international support, and if it is so reasonable and enlightened, surely even the U.S. would sign up and ratify, as they did with Kyoto? (not). America won't be bullied into believing evolution, global warming, geography and cosmology... such as.
swansont Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 'discuss issues science raises for society';....PLEASE!!!!! 'Yes, litte Johnny. There is no god and you are an ignorant little boy if you believe such crap your parents teach you. I'm raising this issue to show you that your parents are idiots believing in such mythologies and don't ever believe another word they say on the matter". It's quite obvious the US government had nothing to do with this, else it would be "make sure your scientific results conform to policy and/or ideology"
iNow Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 It's quite obvious the US government had nothing to do with this, else it would be "make sure your scientific results conform to policy and/or ideology" It's the classic struggle where a capitalist/democratic system is better than communism. Errm....Oh... wait... never mind. "Science is the best way to satisfy your own curiosity for the governmental account." ~Soviet physicist Lev Artsimovich (1909-1973)
ParanoiA Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 America won't be bullied into believing evolution, global warming, geography and cosmology... such as. We may need to consider a preemptive strike...
Rhino Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 - Respect and acknowledge the work of other scientists This one has the potential of turning the field science into youth soccer where everyone gets a Nobel Prize for trying.
swansont Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 This one has the potential of turning the field science into youth soccer where everyone gets a Nobel Prize for trying. Too many universities in the US are heading toward granting degrees for just trying. Some may already be there.
geoguy Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 I'm quite rejuvenated by the healthy skepticism on this topic. It's a positive that individuality and creativity and INDEPENDENCE are alive and well in the scientific community. The last thing scientists need is the nanny state with nanny principles sticking it's nanny nose in the labs and experiments of the world. "Im a geologist and see no contradiction believing in Jesus and Creationism" Respect that? My respect is 'F' off and go drown yourself. Science is not about respect, political correctness, community service or other seemingly 'noble' values. It's about scientific methodology....period.
Pangloss Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 I'm quite rejuvenated by the healthy skepticism on this topic. It's a positive that individuality and creativity and INDEPENDENCE are alive and well in the scientific community. The last thing scientists need is the nanny state with nanny principles sticking it's nanny nose in the labs and experiments of the world. Agreed' date=' I am encouraged by that as well. Too many universities in the US are heading toward granting degrees for just trying. Some may already be there. I thought that was "... for just paying."
Mirabelle Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 The 1 point for Regulatory Agencies: - Be vague
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