-Demosthenes- Posted March 7, 2004 Posted March 7, 2004 I think it should be illegal. It's immoral. People say that the goverment can't govern morals, but that's what our laws are. You can't commit murder, that's based on a moral. You can't steal from people, that's a moral. That's all that our laws are. It's not discrimination, that's when you judge someone unfairly by how they look or a characteristic that they can't control. People are Judged everyday on there merits, how they act, and other things, that's not discrimination. These people are not fit to make their own decisions in their lives. These people have destroyed themselves through excessive immoral behavior, and need help. Do you let someone who is a danger to himself hurt himself? No. Same here, these people are not thinking clearly and can't be trusted to make sound decisions.
fafalone Posted March 7, 2004 Author Posted March 7, 2004 Please don't confuse laws governing what two consenting people can do with eachother with laws that protect non-consenting parties.
NSX Posted March 7, 2004 Posted March 7, 2004 MishMish said in post # :That does not mean it would be recognized in the uS, which is where it would count for Americans True, maybe their love is worth embarking into another country for? More on Canada: I heard on the radio today (680 news) that Canada expects a 35% increase in the Gay Tourism industry. A market research done says that couples will be willing to spend more next time they come to Canada.
atinymonkey Posted March 7, 2004 Posted March 7, 2004 That might be due to the draconian laws and the views of the Bible belt in the US, but it might be because you have all those handsome mounties around. That’s quite an interesting statistic, is there much homophobia in Canada? I’m assuming the French base makes it quite tolerant towards different sexual persuasions.
Sayonara Posted March 7, 2004 Posted March 7, 2004 -Demosthenes- said in post # :I think it should be illegal. It's immoral. People say that the goverment can't govern morals, but that's what our laws are. You can't commit murder, that's based on a moral. You can't steal from people, that's a moral. That's all that our laws are. It's not discrimination, that's when you judge someone unfairly by how they look or a characteristic that they can't control. People are Judged everyday on there merits, how they act, and other things, that's not discrimination. These people are not fit to make their own decisions in their lives. These people have destroyed themselves through excessive immoral behavior, and need help. Do you let someone who is a danger to himself hurt himself? No. Same here, these people are not thinking clearly and can't be trusted to make sound decisions. There is something seriously wrong in your head if you actually believe any of that worthless rhetoric clap-trap. You can't condemn an entire swath of the population just because you don't like or understand them. How is being gay "immoral"? In fact no, don't even reply. Go and look at the "Sanctity of Marriage" and "Homosexuality Facts" threads again - and try to actually take them in this time. And for the love of god don't try to invoke biblical teachings.
fafalone Posted March 7, 2004 Author Posted March 7, 2004 Sayonara³ said in post # : And for the love of god don't try to invoke biblical teachings. LOL
Sayonara Posted March 7, 2004 Posted March 7, 2004 I have been posting such contradictions for a while now in the religion forum, and nobody ever seems to pick up on them
-Demosthenes- Posted March 7, 2004 Posted March 7, 2004 "Go and look at the "Sanctity of Marriage" and "Homosexuality Facts" threads again - and try to actually take them in this time." Oh, take a look at them, I put my post there.
Sayonara Posted March 8, 2004 Posted March 8, 2004 Yes I know you did, and I also know you've had a good couple of hours to see the responses so stop trolling.
fafalone Posted March 8, 2004 Author Posted March 8, 2004 ...and stop being a bigot while you're at it.
NSX Posted March 8, 2004 Posted March 8, 2004 atinymonkey said in post # :but it might be because you have all those handsome mounties around. lol atinymonkey said in post # :That’s quite an interesting statistic, is there much homophobia in Canada? I'm not sure about Canada in general, but in Toronto & the surrounding area, there isn't much mainstream homophobia now. I suppose there's always the odd few. In fact, @ the University of Toronto, there's numerous rainbow symbols etched into the sidewalks, stairs, etc. THey're really proud of themselves. It's kind of weird though. If a gang were to leave their mark on the floor @ the UofT, it would be considered vandalism, where as the rainbows are free to roam... hm.... atinymonkey said in post # :I’m assuming the French base makes it quite tolerant towards different sexual persuasions. lol Well, next time i stop by Montreal, I'll make a note to check for that.
-Demosthenes- Posted March 8, 2004 Posted March 8, 2004 People aren't suposed to go around marrying people of the same sex! Pretty soon people are going to want to marry animals or something, it's all just ridiculous!
Sayonara Posted March 8, 2004 Posted March 8, 2004 -Demosthenes- said in post # :People aren't suposed to go around marrying people of the same sex! In your 2000 year old view, maybe. Fortunately only about 4% of the planet subscribe to such notions so the rest of us are pretty much free to live our lives as best we can. Pretty soon people are going to want to marry animals or something, it's all just ridiculous! The existence of that desire actually predates the bible, so good luck nipping it in the bud. You are really stretching things if you think you can compare the loving, intimate relationship between two sentient beings that 10% of the world's population are wont to have with the unusual desire to find relief in a goat that is prevalent in a mere handful of individuals.
MishMish Posted March 9, 2004 Posted March 9, 2004 The primary problem with bestiality is that the animal can not give informed consent. As such, it falls under abuse instead
Sayonara Posted March 9, 2004 Posted March 9, 2004 -Demosthenes- said in post # :The urge to kill is old too. What has that got to do with anything? Either explain why that's relevant, or stop making such posts. You're lucky you aren't being warned for flaming so far.
atinymonkey Posted March 9, 2004 Posted March 9, 2004 -Demosthenes- said in post # :People aren't suposed to go around marrying people of the same sex! People are supposed to spend their lives with the person they love. Interestingly, nobody gives a flying blue monkey what you think of their choice. But, in the interest of discussion, justify your position. Explain why people can't marry who they like.
-Demosthenes- Posted March 9, 2004 Posted March 9, 2004 The existence of that desire actually predates the bible, so good luck nipping it in the bud. That's what I was responding to.
Sayonara Posted March 9, 2004 Posted March 9, 2004 -Demosthenes- said in post # : That's what I was responding to. Is that supposed to help?
Sayonara Posted March 9, 2004 Posted March 9, 2004 "I was talking about A" does not help explain what the argument "A is old and B is old so yeah" is all about.
-Demosthenes- Posted March 9, 2004 Posted March 9, 2004 Nevermind, I'm getting confused, and your just trying to make me look/feel stupid.
Sayonara Posted March 9, 2004 Posted March 9, 2004 You're doing that all by yourself. How the **** is it my fault that what you wrote made no sense and had no context?
-Demosthenes- Posted March 9, 2004 Posted March 9, 2004 Your doing right now, but that doesn't have to do with the thread, so...
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