rigadin Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 Thanks guys sooo much for helping me with all my questions. Now I understand so much more. I feel really free and comfortable to talk in this forum. I am a very curious boy and I like to learn more about my surrounding world. Anyway another queston: What do you think would happen if you go at the speed of light? Would it become pitch dark because you are ahead of the light? Would you see the light behind you????
swansont Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 Objects with rest mass can't go the speed of light, so the question is moot.
rigadin Posted November 3, 2007 Author Posted November 3, 2007 Objects with rest mass can't go the speed of light, so the question is moot. What if it dosen't have a rest mass. What would "it" see? What does light "see"?
thedarkshade Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 "What happens if you follow a photon at the speed of light?" this a question that Einstein itself asked. And I agree that objects with rest mass cannot reach the speed of light, but according to Einstein's theory of Special Relativity they can reach 99% of it, and then the time dilation. Anyway, I think that an answer has nowdays been provided to you and also to Einstein question. And that answer is "If you follow a photon at the speed of light, the photon moves away from you at the speed of light"
Riogho Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 You could never go the speed of light, because f you did you would have infinite mass.
iNow Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 It's a really really really big IF... but, IF you were massless, I think the speculation goes that you are everywhere all at once. There is no distance, there is no time. I think... and that thought is couched in a REALLY big IF.
rigadin Posted November 3, 2007 Author Posted November 3, 2007 "What happens if you follow a photon at the speed of light?" this a question that Einstein itself asked. And I agree that objects with rest mass cannot reach the speed of light, but according to Einstein's theory of Special Relativity they can reach 99% of it, and then the time dilation. Anyway, I think that an answer has nowdays been provided to you and also to Einstein question. And that answer is "If you follow a photon at the speed of light, the photon moves away from you at the speed of light" I understand that we can't go at the speed of light what does the light "see"?!
Sayonara Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 Assuming you had an observer with no rest mass, they would always measure light moving at light speed, no matter the direction of travel and regardless of their own motion.
thedarkshade Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 Like iNow said, there must be a REALLY REALLY BIG IF, but let's take into consideration that something has reached the speed of light, and ask what would it see? Well, as time dilation now becomes infinite, then first of all there would be no time at all . Then the mass is completely converted into energy or mass is now infinite. So what would it see? I really can't provide an answer (surely nobody can) to this, but as I was writting something came to my mind. What would you see if your getting into a black hole? there also is no time! And as when you reach the speed of light (which is impossible practically) everything gets tricky, then I guess the view would be QUIET DIFFERENT from our physical world!
Sayonara Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 And as when you reach the speed of light (which is impossible practically) everything gets tricky, then I guess the view would be QUIET DIFFERENT from our physical world! Except in the case of light, where everything pretty much turns out okay.
Klaynos Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 "If I ignore the laws of physics what happens if..." The question can have any answer you want
thedarkshade Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 "If I ignore the laws of physics what happens if..." The question can have any answer you want except anything that has to do with our physical reality! Except in the case of light, where everything pretty much turns out okay. Yeah, but it's OK only because those "conditions" are normal because it's light itself.
Sayonara Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 Yeah, but it's OK only because those "conditions" are normal because it's light itself. But the last post by rigadin refers to a photon as the observer, which makes your post rather superfluous.
martianxx Posted November 6, 2007 Posted November 6, 2007 according to relativity IF it were possible to reach the speed of light time would stop leaving what iNOW said would be correct you can travel anny distance instantly, there would be no time or distance.
insane_alien Posted November 6, 2007 Posted November 6, 2007 according to relativity IF it were possible to reach the speed of light time would stop leaving what iNOW said would be correct you can travel anny distance instantly, there would be no time or distance. according to relativity you CANNOT reach the speed of light. if you can then relativity cannot apply.
thedarkshade Posted November 6, 2007 Posted November 6, 2007 according to relativity you CANNOT reach the speed of light.. Even bodies without rest mass can't reach the speed of light, can they? What about when a star's core runs out of hydrogen? And then what about neutron stars? I think I've, in these cases the electrons orbit at THE FULL SPEED OF LIGHT! Possible???
insane_alien Posted November 6, 2007 Posted November 6, 2007 bodies without rest mass can go at the speed of light yes, but you can't use them as a refference frame. electrons have mass. they don't really exist in neutron stars.
thedarkshade Posted November 6, 2007 Posted November 6, 2007 electrons have mass. I know they have mass and that their mass is 1836 smaller than proton's mass, but I'm very sure that I heard (in a science video) saying "electrons move at the full speed of light", in some particular occasion! I'll get you the link as soon as I find it!
insane_alien Posted November 6, 2007 Posted November 6, 2007 well it is obviously wrong as even the largest particle accelerators cannot reach it(darn close but no cigar)
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