Newton's Gravity Constant Secrets

[lfmorgan]

GravityConstantSecrets

 

The constant G fell out of consistent measure.

No real magic involved, just pure physics pleasure.

The gravity field is everywhere “felt” the same;

A finite Black Hole Center gets Absolute Blame:

Z-electron Oscillator as Source and Sink,

Whose continuous in-out supply does not blink.

A concentric array of shell-orbit spaces

Are shell-binding-electron stopping off places

Earth’s Outer Shell is atom-grainy as can be;

The average size of the grain turns out to be G.

 

How Newton and Einstein unknowingly discovered the Higgs particle

 

Earth consists of circulating, ideal-fluid dark matter that is helical string wrapped by visible matter electrons. The electrons spherically organize the dark matter into concentric shells, forming liquids, solids and gases as required. Middle shells are more rigidly bound than inner and outer shells. The ith shell rotates at a distance Ri, around a central maximally spinning black hole (BH). Each shell is a spin/vibration surface defined by G-size Higgs particles, where G gets smaller as shell distance from the BH decreases. The smallest shell at the outer boundary of the BH must spin/vibrate at absolute maximum speed, vmax, while Earth’s solid outer surface has a rotation speed of vmin - which numerically equals the square root of Earth’s mass, ME = 5.9742x1027 grams. Outer shell mass is the square of 3-axis rotation energy, or 3(vmin)2 = ME, so vmin = Ö(ME/3) = Ö(2x1013) = Ö(20x1012) = 4.47x106centimeters (cm) per second . The BH spin speed for all gravity fields is here given the value vmax = Ö(1/3h) = 7.09x1012 cm per second. This Dynamic field structure requires multiple infinities of circular orbit electrons that we never get to see. A much smaller number atom-in-out-oriented Z-electrons provides anthropic scaling of energy states.

 

The concentric array of electron hosting shells are bound to one another in 3 dimensions. In-out oriented electrons circulate from the BH center to the outer surface shell-- in precise synchrony with the two orthogonal, within-shell circular electrons. The concentric shell to shell rhythm of electron orbit speed and perimeter length follow the rule of an underlying universal harmony (UH)-- expressed by G = eR/3v2; which corresponds to Einstein’s space curvature at G on R. This simple version of his field equation, allows integration of the work of Kepler, Newton and Einstein. The universe is closed, infinite and stable. UH-driven determinism rules. GM(m = 1)/R for 3-axis potential energy of a unit mass, and GM(m =1)/R2 for gravity force on that unit mass as attracted by shell variable M--describes Newton’s laws in a shell-discrete manner. Newton and Einstein both discovered the Higgs particle, G, whose atom size at the solid visible outer shell surface does indeed define mass as seen by the Sun’s reflected radiation. Electron event level mechanical vision is clear at and within each concentric shell, and R’s smallest value is the radius of the central BH. This electron orbit shell structure applies to all fields from atom to cosmos.

Visualizing/understanding Mass as a count of G-size Higgs Particles

 

Mass turns out to be a spherical outer surface Math-point = Higgs Mass Point count for all the planets of the Solar System. Planets are visible material points of radius R that are orbiting about the BH center of the Solar System. Kepler’s idea of Universal Harmony (UH) applies in a way he did not see because Planck’s constant and its central role in quantum theory had not yet been discovered. If Kepler’s radius of orbit for all the planets are slightly adjusted longer to reflect distance to the center of the Solar System and not the center of the Sun, then their Moment Of Energy, Rv2, has the same value for all, namely 1/h erg-centimeter! This remarkable symmetry of motion applies even to the Sun itself --as a Planet-- where R » 1011 cm and v » 107 cm/sec, to yield RSun(vSun)2 » (1011)(1015) » 1026 » 1/h.

 

We thus see what the word “anthropic “ means-- in terms of an h-symmetry of all dark and visible matter in motion –as we measure/interact at the molecule level.

 

The photon and minimum energy quantum are the same thing so that E = nhf = Mv2. Planck’s constant h is in ergs when n is the number of “quantum = photon” passing in parallel with each pulse, and h is in grams when n is the number of “electrons’ passing in pulse parallel, where UH ensures that f º v2 and F º 1/G as shell by shell gravity force---for all gravity fields from atom to cosmos. The electron is a helical string of 1/h2 Higgs particles! All radiation from heat to electricity to light to gamma rays has a distinct wave- pulse frequency range, and its linear energy per pulse is equal to the square of the along-wave-centerline speed of Higgs particle motion, v. That is, frequency is indeed always numerically equal to v2-- as a matter of underlying universal harmony at the dark matter fluid transmission level! As ideal fluid for the transport of energy, UH granulates the R/G of dark matter for least friction between adjacent R-size material points, where a ray of radiation is a spin touching line of R’s, whose outer spin surface is defined by Higgs particles. R’s surface mass count is always equal to (R/G)2 = (3v2)2. This means that G is a ball bearing for the surface of R that is sufficiently small to produce least possible R- touching -R friction and energy state change.

 

Newton unknowingly discovered that falling visible matter must be seen as made of atoms on the order of 10-8 in size at the Earth’s visible solid outer surface. Each such G-size Higgs particle atom is interactively immersed in the circulating dark matter that fluid-applies gravity force. For the atom as gravity field, the visible matter in shell orbit is always the circular electron, with Z-electrons continually going back and forth from the BH to the atom’s visible outer surface where G » 10-29 cm, and R » 10-8 cm. One must assume that the visible outer boundary of the atom is where the dark matter is shell-circulating at the speed of v = c --so that one atom as a unit mass acts on another next door in a given direction per G (m =1)(m = 1)/R = G/R = 3c2 as potential energy of one with respect to the other. The immutable nuclear BH of the atom must be on the order of Rabh = 10-14 cm. - where gravity force has the value of 1/GBH » 1/10-40 » 1040 compared to 1/GES » 1/ 10-8 » 108 dyne--one hundred million trillion trillion times greater!

[thedarkshade]

GravityConstantSecrets

The gravity field is everywhere “felt” the same;

Not everywhere! The gravity pull on poles is felt more than in the equator! If a body in equator wights 1000g, in poles will weight 1005g. It's nearer to the center of earth (earth's gravity center).

[iNow]

Not everywhere! The gravity pull on poles is felt more than in the equator! If a body in equator wights 1000g, in poles will weight 1005g. It's nearer to the center of earth (earth's gravity center).

Here's a nice explanation of why what thedarkshade said is pretty accurate:

 

http://www.seed.slb.com/qa2/FAQView.cfm?ID=991

[D H]

The constant G fell out of consistent measure.

No real magic involved, just pure physics pleasure. ...

 

Poetic nonsense. Somebody please move this to pseudoscience.

[h4tt3n]

Not everywhere! The gravity pull on poles is felt more than in the equator! If a body in equator wights 1000g, in poles will weight 1005g. It's nearer to the center of earth (earth's gravity center).

 

Yes, but not because it is closer to Earths centre! The difference is caused by (the imaginary) centrifugal force caused earths rotation. Gravity would actually decrease if you moved closer to earths gravitational centre, and it approximates zero in the centre of the planet.

 

Btw I agree with D H. This should be removed.

 

Cheers,

 

Michael

[insane_alien]

Yes, but not because it is closer to Earths centre! The difference is caused by (the imaginary) centrifugal force caused earths rotation. Gravity would actually decrease if you moved closer to earths gravitational centre, and it approximates zero in the centre of the planet.

 

Btw I agree with D H. This should be removed.

 

Cheers,

 

Michael

 

thats only true if you started tunneling into the earth. all of the mass of the earth is 'below' you and you are closer to the centre. so all the mass still has an effect and on average you are closer to it.

 

the centrifugal force does have an effect but it is a few orders of magnitude smaller.

[swansont]

Poetic nonsense. Somebody please move this to pseudoscience.

 

Done.

 

Here's a nice explanation of why what thedarkshade said is pretty accurate:

 

http://www.seed.slb.com/qa2/FAQView.cfm?ID=991

 

"You will probably have experienced a sideways force in a car going round a bend or on a spinning roundabout. The spin of the Earth also creates an outward force that is greatest at the equator. The difference is small, but enough to make the launch of space rockets cheaper near the equator than near the poles for most intended orbits."

 

AFAIK it's the rotational speed that is the main draw for equatorial launches into equatorial orbits. You get 1000 mph for free, and don't need to launch as much fuel. That's the savings.

[mooeypoo]

Not everywhere! The gravity pull on poles is felt more than in the equator! If a body in equator wights 1000g, in poles will weight 1005g. It's nearer to the center of earth (earth's gravity center).

 

I think you mean "Newton" and not Grams. Grams are a measurement of MASS

 

 

It's a common misconception

 

~moo

[Mr Skeptic]

Lots of people think that mass and weight are the same. Very few people in the US measure mass in the proper English unit for mass (slugs), instead using the unit of force (pounds) as if it were pounds. I bet most of them wouldn't even have heard of the slug. Not too many outside the US measure force as with the unit of force (Newtons) either, instead using the unit of mass (kilogram) as if it were weight. So the result is a lot of people everywhere confuse mass and weight.

[ydoaPs]

Lots of people think that mass and weight are the same. Very few people in the US measure mass in the proper English unit for mass (slugs), instead using the unit of force (pounds) as if it were pounds.

Actually, pounds is an acceptable unit for force and mass. One must just specify which kind. For some reason, people don't like using slugs, so the imperial system came up with a conversion factor (g_c=32(lbf sec²)/(lbm ft) don't quote me on the units, though) to mess up all of the equations so we can use lbf instead of lbm. On earth(at sea level), 1lbm weighs 1lbf. For example: [math]F_g=G\frac{mM}{{g_c}r^2}[/math] instead of [math]F_g=G\frac{mM}{r^2}[/math] and [math]KE=\frac{m|v|^2}{2g_c}[/math] instead of [math]KE=\frac{m|v|^2}{2}[/math]

 

I bet most of them wouldn't even have heard of the slug.

That's a good bet since it's not really used anymore. My Physics instructor at NNTPC didn't even know what a slug is.

[Klaynos]

and this is why every sensible scientist on the planet uses SI!

[mooeypoo]

Here's a YouTube lecture I did on the differences between MASS and WEIGHT using a very effective method of science education, I think.. muaha.

 

I'm sure you'll enjoy the pun of it, if not the actual lecture

 

 

Enjoy...

 

~moo

 

p.s: I thought science is commonly using the metric system, hence the confusion..? pounds, as far as I understood it, is both mass and weight (which is uberodd, but.. whatever) and is also a mistake in my lecture. But.. the point is made and it got some attention and some good amount of people interested in science, so.. goal achieved, i guess

[D H]

That's a good bet since it's not really used anymore. My Physics instructor at NNTPC didn't even know what a slug is.

 

Its a good bet that any engineer or scientist who has to do dynamics and do so in English units knows what a slug is. The choices are few

• Use [math]F=ma[/math] with force represented in pounds-force, mass in slugs, and acceleration in feet/second/second.
  
• Use [math]F=ma[/math] with force represented in poundals, mass in pounds-mass, and acceleration in feet/second/second.
  
• Use [math]F=kma[/math] with force represented in pounds-force, mass in pounds-mass, and acceleration in feet/second/second. Here an explicit conversion factor [math]k=1/32.17405\;\mathrm{lbf}\,\mathrm{sec}^2/\mathrm{lbm}/\mathrm{ft}[/math] is needed to convert from feet-pounds-mass/second/second to pounds-force.
  
• Wish the US would switch to the much more rational furkins/furlongs/fortnights system of units.

 

BTW, what is NNTPC? I know what a slug is but I have never heard of the NNTPC.

[ydoaPs]

[*]Use [math]F=kma[/math] with force represented in pounds-force, mass in pounds-mass, and acceleration in feet/second/second. Here an explicit conversion factor

That's the one we do. Like I said above.

 

 

BTW, what is NNTPC? I know what a slug is but I have never heard of the NNTPC.

Naval Nuclear Power Training Command. It's the worlds most prestigious nuclear power training program(or something like that).

[swansont]

Naval Nuclear Power Training Command. It's the worlds most prestigious nuclear power training program(or something like that).

 

It's a fairly focused program, and they work in lbf and lbm, not slugs, so there's no need for an instructor to know it. As I understand it, the makeup of the staff changed (when the moved out of Orlando, I assume); back when I was there most of the officers teaching physics were physics majors or something closely related, and they would have known what a slug is.

[ydoaPs]

It's a fairly focused program, and they work in lbf and lbm, not slugs, so there's no need for an instructor to know it. As I understand it, the makeup of the staff changed (when the moved out of Orlando, I assume); back when I was there most of the officers teaching physics were physics majors or something closely related, and they would have known what a slug is.

Now, most of them are [acr=Direct Input Officer]DIO's[/acr](formerly [acr=Direct Input Limited Duty Officers]DILDOs[/acr]) although several of them do have degrees in physics.

[swansont]

It was mostly DIO's (that's Direct Input Officer, i.e. directly from college to commission, for anyone trying to follow) for the first-half subjects when I was there. I met a guy who had gone through the program a few years ago (mid-90's) who implied that they had gone away from the DIOs and it was enlisted guys who had done a tour at sea who were teaching everything (when our XO had told him I was a former nuke instructor, he assumed I was former enlisted)

 

And we had a joke about Direct Input Limited Duty Officers back in the day. Also "What's the difference between a seaman (or fireman) apprentice and an ensign? A seaman apprentice has been promoted once."

[mooeypoo]

Now, most of them are [acr=Direct Input Officer]DIO's[/acr](formerly [acr=Direct Input Limited Duty Officers]DILDOs[/acr]) although several of them do have degrees in physics.

... is this for real??

[ydoaPs]

I met a guy who had gone through the program a few years ago (mid-90's) who implied that they had gone away from the DIOs and it was enlisted guys who had done a tour at sea who were teaching everything

Some enlisted teach, but in Power School, there are a lot of officers, too. Not so many officers in the [acr=Heat Transfer and Fluid Flow]HTFF[/acr] and the in-rate(for me, [acr=Mechanical Theory for Mechanical Operators]MTMO[/acr]), but Enlisted Mathematics, Enlisted Physics, Reactor Principles, and [acr=Chemistry, Materials, and Radiological Fundamentals]CMR[/acr] were swarming with officers. Now, most of the officers I see are just ensigns trying to qualify [acr=Engineering Officer Of the Watch]EOOW[/acr].

... is this for real??

Quite so....any guesses why they changed the name?

[mooeypoo]

 

Quite so....any guesses why they changed the name?

 

Stupid Israeli military, we have such boring titles for everything. You guys have the best military in the world. Seriously.

 

What other military can someone actually aspire to become a DILDO?

 

I'm so thinking about joining now......

[lfmorgan]

Hey all you infintely wise kids out there, you are practicing monsense dressed up as hi tech Big Bomb physics! Giving all real science a very bad name---money making & fun on the internet is all that counts for you. This just turned 83 real world physicist & WWII Marine is disgusted with the whole lot of you!

[iNow]

Hey all you infintely wise kids out there, you are practicing monsense dressed up as hi tech Big Bomb physics! Giving all real science a very bad name---money making & fun on the internet is all that counts for you. This just turned 83 real world physicist & WWII Marine is disgusted with the whole lot of you!

 

Since you're 83, I could just retaliate by calling you senile, but I'd really prefer that you instead be more specific about who you are attacking and for what reason.

 

What specifically is "nonsense dressed up as high tech big bomb physics?"

What specifically is "real science," and how is it's name being besmurched?

How do you know that money making and fun on the internet is all that counts for every single person here? I find this one more ad hominem than all of the rest.

 

 

I thank you for your previous service as a Marine, and hope instead that you will use your "real world" physics experience to teach others, not attack them. Thanks in advance for any clarification you are willing to offer on your hit and run post above.

[lfmorgan]

Not everywhere! The gravity pull on poles is felt more than in the equator! If a body in equator wights 1000g, in poles will weight 1005g. It's nearer to the center of earth (earth's gravity center).

By felt, I simply meant physically at the level of every cell of the body at once---you clearly were thinking of force magnitude which does in fact increase as the feeling body gets closer the the center of gravity---right up to the moment when its binding energy electrons are stripped away and it no longer exists as a bulk matter object. Thank you for reading and commenting on my post about my new complete theory of the universe.Frank Morgan of Newhall, CA

[ydoaPs]

I think the "high tech big bomb physics" comment may have been directed towards me.

[insane_alien]

yet you don't even work with bombs. the things you work on are explicitly designed to not blow up, ever. even if it goes majorly wrong.