Sisyphus Posted December 3, 2007 Posted December 3, 2007 ROFL! Well that reasoning might actually work if it weren't for the fact that most of my neighbors used to be yours! "My parents just moved down to Florida. They didn't want to, but, you know, they turned 65 and that's the law." -- Jerry Seinfeld Yes, yes, we've been sending our weak down to Miami for decades now. It's considered more humane then leaving them to die of exposure, Spartan style.
bascule Posted December 4, 2007 Author Posted December 4, 2007 No, the point of the thread was to present a deceptive basis for accusing him of insentitivity towards the disabled. Sooo... you have no trouble putting words in my mouth... In answer to your question, I have no idea, but I don't have a problem with THAT GUY being on some aspect of welfare, including foot stamps. Perhaps people like that guy are the reason workfare doesn't work...
Pangloss Posted December 4, 2007 Posted December 4, 2007 Yes, yes, we've been sending our weak down to Miami for decades now. It's considered more humane then leaving them to die of exposure, Spartan style. ROFL! "THIS... IS... FLORIDA!!!!!!!" Sooo... you have no trouble putting words in my mouth... Nope, you put them there yourself by characterizing Giuliani's reaction against the backdrop of the man's disability, calling it "sickening". Nor have you denied that this was your position.
bascule Posted December 5, 2007 Author Posted December 5, 2007 Nope, you put them there yourself by characterizing Giuliani's reaction against the backdrop of the man's disability, calling it "sickening". Nor have you denied that this was your position. So what exactly do you find so offensive about the man's conduct? Calling him a criminal? I recall asking you that... The caller directly' date=' deliberately insulted him.[/quote'] How, by calling him a criminal? ...and receiving no response. The thrust of his call seemed to be that he was sick and Giuliani's workfare program cut off his access to medicare and food stamps... ...and Giuliani's only response was to question his sanity...
Pangloss Posted December 5, 2007 Posted December 5, 2007 So what exactly do you find so offensive about the man's conduct? Calling him a criminal? "I think you're the worst mayor the city has ever known" and "I think you're the biggest criminal in the city". He didn't ask the mayor a question, he staged a protest. And that's fine, but he got what he deserved. Wheelchair or not, regardless of the reception he received, he is still responsible for his behavior. What would you say if Barrack Obama mocked a caller accusing him being the "biggest criminal in the country" for not doing enough to stop the war in Iraq? Would Obama be more wrong if the caller turned out to be a double amputee war veteran just home from Iraq? You know as well as I do that some right-wing zealot is out there right now, copying and pasting some nonsense exactly like that, as fast as he possibly can. Why perpetuate it? I think you make a valid point about Giuliani's temper and attitude. I just think you go too far in calling this event "sickening". But that's my opinion, YMMV.
Mr Skeptic Posted December 5, 2007 Posted December 5, 2007 The thrust of his call seemed to be that he was sick and Giuliani's workfare program cut off his access to medicare and food stamps... ...and Giuliani's only response was to question his sanity... There's a word for that. Perception.
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