dom3mo Posted December 4, 2007 Posted December 4, 2007 Im pretty sure this would work. You need a metal container "A old car battery or something thats resistant to sulfuric acid". A metal cover "make sure it fits the container" ,you will need to file some pennies until all the zinc is exposed, copper wire, and a drill. Drill a hole in the penny and thread the copper wire do this twice to make the anode and cathode. Fill the container with the sulfuric acid "be careful". Then drill a hole in the metal cover and thread the copper wire so that the penny and some of the wire is in the solution while some of the wire is sticking out. Put the metal cover on and your done.
Melvin Posted December 4, 2007 Posted December 4, 2007 uhh...no Putting zinc metal in sulfuric acid gives you zinc sulfate and hydrogen, and does not make electricity (I assume that's what this is for). You need something that will react with H2SO4 to give electrons as the anode and something that will require electrons to react with H2SO4 as the cathode. Most car batteries use lead dioxide and lead for this.
Rocket Man Posted December 4, 2007 Posted December 4, 2007 and another plate of lead sulfate... why deconstruct the car battery in the first place?
insane_alien Posted December 4, 2007 Posted December 4, 2007 also, a metal container is a bad idea. acids dissolve metal. use glass.
Melvin Posted December 4, 2007 Posted December 4, 2007 Both of the plates can't be lead, dom3mo. One is lead, but the other is lead dioxide. Just buy a car battery!
YT2095 Posted December 4, 2007 Posted December 4, 2007 uhh...no Putting zinc metal in sulfuric acid gives you zinc sulfate and hydrogen, and does not make electricity (I assume that's what this is for). sorry and all that, but that statement isn`t true, it will indeed make an electrical potential, I`m not sure off the top of my head the Half Electrode potential for Zn metal but it`s about 1.5 Volts.
Melvin Posted December 4, 2007 Posted December 4, 2007 Well, if you used zinc for both electrodes, wouldn't they just cancel each other out?
YT2095 Posted December 5, 2007 Posted December 5, 2007 if Both were zinc yeah, you can`t have a battery with Just a (-) terminal
John Cuthber Posted December 5, 2007 Posted December 5, 2007 Worse; the copper wire would act as the other electrode. The "battery" would be short circuited.
John Cuthber Posted December 6, 2007 Posted December 6, 2007 Lets face it; it wouldn't be a battery but it might make a decent hand warmer.
Melvin Posted December 7, 2007 Posted December 7, 2007 Maybe an uneconomic, unsafe hand warmer:-) Would make some useful H2 though.
YT2095 Posted December 7, 2007 Posted December 7, 2007 with Zinc being amphoteric, you could also use a Base like KOH or NaOH, but keep this in solid form for the shelf life, and when you need power you just add some water and away you go, instant power, a bit like Torpedo batts, they`re only small and don`t have to last long (for obvious reasons) they activate when you get them wet and give off kilowatts of power.
Melvin Posted December 7, 2007 Posted December 7, 2007 YT, what would you use as the other electrode if one is zinc? Copper?
YT2095 Posted December 7, 2007 Posted December 7, 2007 copper would be fine sure, I did one ages ago using NaOH as the electrolyte and Magnalium and copper as the electrodes in the Great Battery LED challenge. here: http://www.scienceforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2863
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