Fred56 Posted December 14, 2007 Posted December 14, 2007 Light (a very narrow, life-tolerant, part of the spectrum), colour (frequency), and so on are "thrown" at us randomly; they "collapse" on a screen in front of us, somehow. We select those events which point in the most available direction. Reality is like a resonance, or a note (or music) playing all around us, sort of thing. Or our mind is like an "enclosed cathedral", kind of like the one Achille-Claude (deBussy) found in that wood, "la cathedrale engloutie" But who is playing the organ, type of thing? Is 'god' the conductor, as it were... something inside, and outside us also? I posted that elsewhere, and didn't get flamed for using "that word". But, hey, feel free...
iNow Posted December 14, 2007 Posted December 14, 2007 But who is playing the organ, type of thing? Is 'god' the conductor, as it were... something inside, and outside us also? Fred, your fault is in assuming the need for a player of your metaphorical organ. You approach this as a given premise, but it's not substantiated. You also try to humanize nature, which becomes another vehicle for your confusion.
Mr Skeptic Posted December 14, 2007 Posted December 14, 2007 Fred56, I don't think the reason you get "flammed" has anything to do with any particular word you use.
Fred56 Posted December 15, 2007 Author Posted December 15, 2007 I don't think the reason you get "flammed" has anything to do with any particular word That seems a rather general observation. "tradesman methods knowing tools is prepared most suitable to choose" What about them ones?
Norman Albers Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 I see the possibility of electric charge being illusory. To me the metaphor would be more like, the wizard of Oz long ago went South.
Fred56 Posted December 15, 2007 Author Posted December 15, 2007 So, the organ, as it were, isn't running on steam?
Norman Albers Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 Fair question! I play DeBussey on the piano, L'Cathedral Engloutie or however. I also happen to be a pipe organist, so I am sensitive about personal questions on organs.
Reaper Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 The virtual organ in Fred's brain! Really? I thought he was talking about the invisible organ in my room .
Fred56 Posted December 15, 2007 Author Posted December 15, 2007 My room's got the one I practise on, and there's this sort of 'corner of my eye' one, with this dude all in black; I keep trying to tell him I can't hear a thing he's playing (the ones in my east and west naves are too loud). The bishop told me to just ignore the guy, so it's cool. Jimi, Claude, and Sergei should be back with Ron later --later Ron. (we're working on this Pavane thing...)
iNow Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 What we have here is a complete lack of consistency. When I asked "what organ," you responded thusly: My room's got the one I practise on, and there's this sort of 'corner of my eye' one, with this dude all in black; I keep trying to tell him I can't hear a thing he's playing (the ones in my east and west naves are too loud). The bishop told me to just ignore the guy, so it's cool. Jimi, Claude, and Sergei should be back with Ron later --later Ron. (we're working on this Pavane thing...) Yet... when you opened the thread you said the below, and this is what prompted me to ask "what organ?" : Light (a very narrow, life-tolerant, part of the spectrum), colour (frequency), and so on are "thrown" at us randomly; they "collapse" on a screen in front of us, somehow. We select those events which point in the most available direction. Reality is like a resonance, or a note (or music) playing all around us, sort of thing. Or our mind is like an "enclosed cathedral", kind of like the one Achille-Claude (deBussy) found in that wood, "la cathedrale engloutie" But who is playing the organ, type of thing? Is 'god' the conductor, as it were... something inside, and outside us also?[/quOTE] So... uhh... yeah... Am I correct in thinking that your suggestion is that god is playing your brain like an organ? It helps the rest of us if you're at least minimally coherent.
Fred56 Posted December 15, 2007 Author Posted December 15, 2007 Am I correct in thinking that god is playing your brain like an organ NO, YOU IDIOT. His son's on the keyboard, you ning. You know, that Jesus dude (I call him J -coz he hands lots of them around). It helps the rest of us if you're at least minimally co he rant[/b']. It would help if you could learn to spell. Do you want some help?
iNow Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 NO, YOU IDIOT.His son's on the keyboard, you ning. You know, that Jesus dude (I call him J -coz he hands lots of them around). It helps the rest of us if you're at least minimally co he rant.[/b'] It would help if you could learn to spell. Do you want some help? Troll. Btw... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3A+coherent Definitions of coherent on the Web: marked by an orderly, logical, and aesthetically consistent relation of parts; "a coherent argument" capable of thinking and expressing yourself in a clear and consistent manner; "a lucid thinker"; "she was more coherent than she had been just after the accident" sticking together; "two coherent sheets"; "tenacious burrs" wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
Reaper Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 I hypothesize that this thread will be locked in a few hours.
iNow Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 I hypothesize that this thread will be locked in a few hours. As are practically ALL threads in which Fred participates. He's a troll.
Fred56 Posted December 15, 2007 Author Posted December 15, 2007 "we are something collecting itself" In the sense that all information we acquire is something that we are. We expend some part of "ourselves" (in thermodynamic terms) in order to acquire. Evolution follows this sense of accumulation, and "improvement" or "direction", i.e. purpose. Life and evolution are purposeful, then. Hey, some f**kwit keeps posting garbage.. Maybe there's more than one of them? But if that's all he has in that thing he thinks is a brain, maybe I should be feeling sorry for him.
Dak Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 OK, i'm tired, hungry, and i'm missing scrubs. can someone tell me wtf this thread is/was about, 'cos i swear it makes no sense to me?
swansont Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 Can't help you there. This is just surreal. But Fred will be on furlough, so there's no point in continuing.
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