vampares Posted January 14, 2008 Posted January 14, 2008 Irreducible Complexity JAVA Applet(you will need a browser enabled Java VM) This applet runs a "genetic selection" simulation. Basically it "homogenizes" the population. You have to run it fast (>>>) for a minute or two, or ~100 to ~2000 generations. The end result is a geneticly evolved piece that does not "evolve" anymore (that is to say, in my understanding, the removal of half the population always removes everything other than what is "IC"). Irreducible Complexity Demystified: A new term, irreducibly complex, (IC) has been introduced into public discussions of evolution. The term was defined by Michael Behe in 1996 in his book Darwin's Black Box: The Biochemical Challenge to Evolution (1) . . . The argument from IC to ID is simply: IC things cannot evolve If it can't have evolved it must have been designed . . . "By irreducibly complex I mean a single system composed of several well-matched, interacting parts that contribute to the basic function, wherein the removal of any one of the parts causes the system to effectively cease functioning." . . . IC refers to an organism doing something (the function) in such a way that the system (that portion of the organism that directly performs the function) has no more parts than are strictly necessary.
lucaspa Posted January 15, 2008 Posted January 15, 2008 Behe created a strawman version of Darwinian evolution when he coined "irreducible complexity". He used a quote from Origin of Species in which Darwin said "If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed, which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory [natural selection] would absolutely break down." pg 146 Behe then interpreted this as being a straight line modification from structure A to structure B. But notice Darwin didn't say this. All Darwin talked about was "numerous, succcessive, slight modifications". There is an excellent paper out describing 4 routes of Darwinian evolution, all involving "successive, slight modifications" By using 1 or more of these routes, any IC system can be constructed. This paper is universally ignored by IDers; I have not seen even an attempt to answer it. I will give a summary of the paper below: A Classification of Possible Routes of Darwinian Evolution Richard H. Thornhill and Daviud W. Uussery J. theor. Biol. (2000) 203, 111-116 available online at http://www.idealibrary.com or http://www.cbs.dtu.dk/staff/dave/articles/jtb.pdf "1. Introduction It is generally assumed that Darwinian evolution must occur in a gradual, step-by-step manner, with natural selection acting at each step. A common argument used by anti-Darwinists involves the difficulty of explaining the origin of complex structures by such a process. However, there are several different mechanisms by which Darwinian evolution can occur. It is the purpose of this article to classify the different possible routes of Darwinian evolution. It is important to define four terms clearly before further discussion." This paper is directed specifically at Behe and his "irreducible complexity" hypothesis. Remember Behe's specific claims: there is NO POSSIBLE Darwinian explanation for IC systems. Note that Thornhill and Ussery have already exposed one flaw of IC (and thus of ID), namely, that IDers make a strawman argument of Darwinian evolution to attack. This will become plainer in a bit. The authors start out with definitions, the first being IC lifted right from Darwin's Black Box. They then define a term Behe missed: "Functional Indivisibility The quality of a component of a structure such that there is at least one alteration to it which would render the whole structure absolutely non-functional. This term was implied but not used by Behe (1996a, pp. 45, 142)." The authors then define Darwinian evolution. "Darwinian Evolution Descent of organisms in which the following criteria are met: (i) intergenerational differences are very much smaller than inter-specific ones; (ii) no intervention by conscious agent(s) occurs; (iii) the frequency of mutations or other heritable modifications is unrelated to functional utility; and (iv) selection is the sole means by which heritable modifications are accumulated to form functional structures." I disagree that (ii) is part of Darwinian evolution. It certainly is not part of Origin of Species. However, if they mean "direct manufacture by conscious agent(s)", which is what they probably mean, then it is OK. "Accessibility by Darwinian Evolution The quality of a biological structure such that it could be generated by a sequence of very small changes, each of which is selectively neutral or advantageous (Darwin, 1859, p. 189; Dawkins, 1986, p. 91)." "BACKGROUND It was recently suggested that many biological structures are irreducibly complex, and therefore inaccessible by Darwinian evolution. Thus far, this is merely a restatement of the (fallacious) popular creationist argument about organs such as the eye. However, the new departure was to argue that the components of biochemical systems, unlike those of supramolecular structures, are single molecules, which are often functionally indivisible. The conclusion was that irreducibly complex structures of functionally indivisible components are inaccessible by Darwinian evolution. Eukaryotic undulipodia (cilia and flagella), bacterial flagella, intracellular vesicular transport, and the mammalian immune response and blood- clotting systems were given as examples (Behe, 1996a). The above thesis is unsound, as it is not certain either that any biological structures are irreducibly complex, or that their component molecules are functionally indivisible (Coyne, 1996; Doolittle, 1997; Fulton, 1997; Ussery, 1999). However, the more theoretical question about the accessibility by Darwinian evolution of irreducibly complex structures of functionally indivisible components, if such exist, has not been thoroughly examined. ... One factor hampering examination of the accessibility of biological structures by Darwinian evolution is the absence of a classification of possible routes. A suggested classification is presented here." So, let's get to the different routes of Darwinian evolution,and the authors list 4. "2.1 SERIAL DIRECT DARWINIAN EVOLUTION This means change along a single axis. Although it can generate complicated structures, it cannot generate irreducibly complex structures. The components added may be functionally indivisible, having originated by either mutation or adoption (see below), with a probable example being the steps in an A -* B -* C -* D metabolic pathway, such as the TCA cycle (Behe, 1996a,b). On the other hand, they may be functionally divisible, with an example being increments of giraffe neck length. A molecular example of the latter is the gradual change in enzyme specificity and activity resulting from single amino acid substitutions. " "2.2 PARALLEL DIRECT DARWINIAN EVOLUTION This means approximately synchronous changes in more than one component, so that modification to other components always occurs before the total modification to any one component has become significant. For example, in the evolution of the eye of Nautilus, and of the vertebrate eye if this passed through a Nautilus-like stage (Land & Fernald, 1992), it would be necessary for the evolution of the retina to be approximately synchronous with that of the pinhole eye. The retina is accessible via small steps from a single photosensitive cell, with increments of photosensitivity, and the pinhole eye is likewise accessible from a minor concavity, with incremental advantages initially in physical protection and then in focusing (Nilsson & Pelger, 1994). However, neither component would function without the other, and, furthermore, the retina would be exposed to damage if not enclosed. Parallel direct Darwinian evolution can generate irreducibly complex structures, but not irreducibly complex structures of functionally indivisible components (Fig. 1), and this is the valid conclusion to draw from Behe's thesis." So, Behe was correct about this, but the strawman argument is that parallel direct Darwinian evolution is the ONLY route. "As with serial direct Darwinian evolution, single steps in any of the parallel routes may be functionally either divisible or indivisible. Most complex supramolecular biological structures have primarily this type of accessibility by Darwinian evolution, with examples being bat echolocation, spiders' web construction, honeybee waggle dances, and insect mimicry by orchids (Dawkins, 1986, 1995). Some complex (but not irreducibly complex) molecular systems, such as the globin proteins (Ptitsyn, 1999; Satoh et al., 1999), could also have evolved in this manner." "2.3 ELIMINATION OF FUNCTIONAL REDUNDANCY For example, it is difficult to hypothesize a direct route by Darwinian evolution from mammalian to reptilian jaws, as they consist of different pairs of bones. However, the fossil intermediates Morganucodon and Kuehneotherium had both quadrate-articular and dentarysquamosal articulation. The following postulated evolutionary sequence from reptilian to mammalian jaws, for which there is considerable fossil evidence, involves selective advantage at each step (Kermack & Kermack, 1984): ...Redundancy elimination can generate irreducibly complex structures of functionally indivisible components, and a Darwinian evolutionary route of this type has been suggested for biochemical cascades, such as the blood-clotting system (Robison, 1996)." Oops. Generation of just those systems that Behe says cannot be generated. Not generated by parallel direct evolution, but by elimination of functional redundancy. "2.4 ADOPTION FROM A DIFFERENT FUNCTION For example, scale-feather intermediates would offer no aerodynamic advantage, but one can hypothesize a sequence from scales to primitive but airworthy feathers in which each step offers an increased advantage as insulation. Their use for proto-flight motility would therefore only begin after this sequence. Recently discovered fossil evidence suggests that feather evolution did indeed follow such a sequence, with protofeathers, composed of the same proteins as feathers, in Sinosauropteryx (Chen et al., 1998; K. Padian, pers. comm., 1999), probably marginally airworthy feathers in the non-flying Caudipteryx and Protarchaeopteryx (Ji et al., 1998), and feathers in the flying Archaeopteryx (Padian, 1998). The proto- feathers and feathers probably also possessed functions in display, camouflage, recognition, etc. and it is possible that the actual sequence was more complicated than the above hypothetical one, with evolution at some stages being driven primarily by selection for such functions (Padian & Chiappe, 1998). However, the proto-feathers in Sinosauropteryx were so thickly distributed that they almost certainly did function as insulation (K. Padian, pers. comm., 1999). Adoption from other functions, whether generating an irreducibly complex structure or otherwise, appears to be widespread at the molecular level. The following are a few examples: (I) Many bacteria and yeasts contain chimeric flavohaemoglobins, consisting of a haem domain which is homologous to non-chimeric haem proteins, and a flavin-binding domain which is homologous to NADPH sulphite reductase, toluate 1,2 dioxygenase, cytochrome P450 reductase, and nitric oxide synthase (Moens et al., 1996). (ii) Antifreeze glycoprotein in the blood of Antarctic notothenioid fishes, which enables them to survive in icy seas, is considered to have evolved from a functionally unrelated pancreatic trypsinogen- like protease, and the recent discovery of chimenc genes which encode both the protease and an antifreeze glycoprotein polyprotein strongly supports this theory (Cheng & Chen, 1999). (iii) Crystallins (proteins with refractive functions in the eye lens) are closely related or identical to stress-protective proteins in non-ocular tissues (e.g. Drosophila alpha-crystallins and small heat-shock proteins are homologous). Piatigorsky uses the term "gene-sharing" for the encoding in a single gene of a protein with two or more functions, and suggests that this may be a widespread evolutionary "strategy" (Piatigorsky, 1998)." Just to rub salt in the wound, Thornhill and Ussery go on to demonstrate that one of Behe's examples of IC could arise this way: "There are several apparent instances of adoption in one of Behe's examples, the blood-clotting system. One is the kringle domain, a structure of 90 amino acids with three characteristic disulphide bonds, which is present in various proteins of the blood-clotting cascade, and also in hepatocyte growth factor, which is not involved in blood clotting (Gerhart & Kirschner, 1997, pp. 220-222). A second example is epidermal growth factor, a 53 amino acid peptide with a characteristic motif of six cysteines, which is present in several blood-clotting proteins, and also in the epidermal growth factor precursor, the low-density lipoprotein receptor, laminin (an extracellular matrix protein), and several transmembrane receptors (Davis, 1990)." "There are two ways by which irreducibly complex structures of functionally indivisible components could result from adoption: (i) Generation of an irreducibly complex structure by the joining of two or more non-irreducibly complex structures of functionally indivisible components. A possible example is the V(D)J joining mechanism in the immune systems of jawed vertebrates, ... (ii) Supply of an existing irreducibly complex structure of functionally indivisible components. The structure would have evolved previously by either redundancy elimination or the joining of two or more non-irreducibly complex structures of functionally indivisible components. Undulipodia may be accessible by Darwinian evolution in this manner, as their two main hypothesized origins are from ectosymbionts (Szathm ry, 1987) and spindle tubules (McQuade, 1977; Cavalier-Smith, 1978, 1982). However, the most detailed published hypothetical pathway for the transformation of ectosymbionts into undulipodia was actually one of parallel direct Darwinian evolution." Again, remember Behe's claim. NO POSSIBLE Darwinian route. To refute this claim, it is not necessary to show the actual route but only to have a plausible route. Thornhill and Ussery end up by comparing Dawkin's "brittle" structures to IC systems: "Dawkins uses "brittleness" to mean the quality of a structure such that it must be perfect if it is to work at all, and "brittle" is therefore close or identical in meaning to irreducibly complex and composed of functionally indivisible components. He argues that no biological, and very few artificial, structures are "brittle", and gives the arch as his sole example of one (Dawkins, 1995, pp. 82- 83). " The authors then go on to show TWO routes of Darwinian evolution by which the arch could have evolved. "the arch would be accessible from a single cuboid by two routes of Darwinian evolution: (i) via a heap of stones, which is then removed (i.e. redundancy elimination); and (ii) from a lintel, by two lintels being positioned diagonally and end to end, followed by the insertion of a key stone, and then by the diagonals being replaced by stones increasingly trapezoidal along one axis (i.e. parallel direct Darwinian evolution). The latter is probably analogous to the actual Roman route of invention," So, the whole concept of IC as evidence of ID is refuted by showing the ways and combinations of ways an IC system can arise by Darwinian evolution.
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