Ashish Posted January 20, 2008 Posted January 20, 2008 The elementary charge (symbol e or sometimes q) is the electric charge carried by a single proton, or equivalently, the negative of the electric charge carried by a single electron It has a value of 1.602 176 487 × 10^(-19) Coloumb. So is there any elementary mass
thedarkshade Posted January 20, 2008 Posted January 20, 2008 yes there is: [math]9.1 \times 10^{-31}kg[/math]
Ashish Posted January 20, 2008 Author Posted January 20, 2008 Isn't it for Atomic Mass Unit 1 amu = 1.660538782(83)\times 10^{−27} kg
thedarkshade Posted January 20, 2008 Posted January 20, 2008 No, the atomic unit mas is [math]1.6605 \times 10^{-27}kg[/math] and that's just to make the calculations easier. The elementary mass is what I posted above!
Ashish Posted January 20, 2008 Author Posted January 20, 2008 As there is a charge quantization so as well for mass also or what?
thedarkshade Posted January 20, 2008 Posted January 20, 2008 Listen, the elementary charge like you posted is: [math]q_e=1.609 \times 10^{-19}C[/math] that is the charge of an electron or a proton. The smallest charge existing. And the elementary mass is the mass of the electron which is: [math]m_e=9.1 \times 10^{-31}kg[/math]. You mention atomic unit. That equals [math]1.6605 \times 10^{-27}kg[/math] and it has been taken by convention to make the calculations easier!
Ashish Posted January 20, 2008 Author Posted January 20, 2008 No I was saying that charge occur only in quanta i.e. q = ne so is there anything about mass quantization
thedarkshade Posted January 20, 2008 Posted January 20, 2008 Nah, don't think so. At least I have not heard so!
thedarkshade Posted January 20, 2008 Posted January 20, 2008 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plank_mass I don't get yourdadonapogos, [math]9.1\times 10^{-31}kg[/math] is much smaller than [math]2.176\times 10^{-8}kg[/math] and elementary means the smallest one possible. I don't understand the reason of you post!
Ashish Posted January 20, 2008 Author Posted January 20, 2008 I mean to say that is there any small elementary particle which can be used as an integral one.
swansont Posted January 20, 2008 Posted January 20, 2008 I mean to say that is there any small elementary particle which can be used as an integral one. No, there is no elementary quantized unit of mass. At least not that I've heard of.
Roberto Posted February 27, 2012 Posted February 27, 2012 So than may I ask what the definition/use of elementary mass unit is? Ive been wondering since I was introduced to the concept.
swansont Posted February 27, 2012 Posted February 27, 2012 So than may I ask what the definition/use of elementary mass unit is? Ive been wondering since I was introduced to the concept. Under what scenario was this a concept that could be introduced?
Roberto Posted February 28, 2012 Posted February 28, 2012 solid state chemistry and Im aware of its value. even roughly aware thats its obtained as (m©/12)/(6.02E23), correct me if Im wrong because I did the calculation on the graphing calc and got 1.66261074E-27. Im using m©=0.0120107kg.
swansont Posted February 28, 2012 Posted February 28, 2012 solid state chemistry and Im aware of its value. even roughly aware thats its obtained as (m©/12)/(6.02E23), correct me if Im wrong because I did the calculation on the graphing calc and got 1.66261074E-27. Im using m©=0.0120107kg. That's a standard mass unit (the atomic mass unit), not elementary mass, i.e. a quantized unit, in keeping with the subject of the OP. amu is used because it is scale-appropriate for nuclear, atomic and molecular calculations.
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