Mr.Chockuls Posted February 10, 2008 Posted February 10, 2008 Hello. I was thinking if could i do some HClO3 with Cl2 as source, puting some Cl2 in water will do HClO3, and puting it in h202 will do hclo4, will this combination really work? or it will do just hcl?
YT2095 Posted February 10, 2008 Posted February 10, 2008 no, not really, Why do you want this acid anyway?
thedarkshade Posted February 10, 2008 Posted February 10, 2008 Cl wouldn't work I think but you could find [ce]Cl2O5[/ce] useful. Just to dissolve it in water [ce]Cl2O5 + H2O -> 2HClO3[/ce]
Mr.Chockuls Posted February 10, 2008 Author Posted February 10, 2008 i want it because i was meaning if someone can make any chlorate easly. i see now' that is better doing with salt, anyway. thanks guys, i have a source of ClO2 but not of Cl2O5, thanks.
sami Posted February 29, 2008 Posted February 29, 2008 Thanks For You Chockuls You Mean Hclo3 +h2o2___________hclo4
Fuzzwood Posted February 29, 2008 Posted February 29, 2008 My eyes hurt... Learn how to type proper molecular formulas, buy a book, rid yourself of the idea that only explosions are fun, then we'll talk again.
YT2095 Posted February 29, 2008 Posted February 29, 2008 lol, it gets worse, this Hclo3 +h2o2___________hclo4 wouldn`t even work anyway!
thedarkshade Posted March 1, 2008 Posted March 1, 2008 Hello.I was thinking if could i do some HClO3 with Cl2 as source, puting some Cl2 in water will do HClO3, and puting it in h202 will do hclo4, will this combination really work? or it will do just hcl? [ce]Cl2[/ce] with [ce]H2O[/ce] will give you [ce]HCl + HOCl[/ce] and [ce]HOCl[/ce] will decompose into [ce]HCl[/ce] and atomic oxygen. They two ways I know of making [ce]HClO3[/ce] are: [ce]Cl2O5 + H2O -> 2HClO3[/ce] [ce]Ba(ClO3)2 + H2SO4 -> BaSO4 + 2HClO3[/ce]
YT2095 Posted April 18, 2008 Posted April 18, 2008 there are some Blatant errors here, according to My source: Chlorine has the following oxides: Cl2O --> anhydride of HOCl ClO2 --> Mixed anhydride of HClO2 and HClO3 Cl2O6 --> Mixed anhydride of HClO3 and HClO4 Cl2O7 --> anhydride of HClO4 So, for HClO3 and HClO2 there is no true anhydride. The route of Ba(ClO3)2 and H2SO4 indeed is suitable for making HClO3. Finally, HClO3 only exists in solution. Any attempt to isolate HClO3 by taking away the water results in decomposition.
thedarkshade Posted April 19, 2008 Posted April 19, 2008 So, for HClO3 and HClO2 there is no true anhydride. I just checked my chemistry book an it is as it follows: [ce]Cl2O5 + H2O -> 2HClO3[/ce] [ce]Cl2O7 + H2O -> 2HClO4[/ce]
John Cuthber Posted April 20, 2008 Posted April 20, 2008 Textbooks are sometimes wrong. Do you have any evidence for the existence of Cl2O5? There are some other oxides of chlorine and they are not generally easy to work with so it can be hard to tell if you have a new compound or just an impure mixture of the other oxides.
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