K. Margiani Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 How the Galaxies are Formed? Logically, what is born has to die. Usually elliptical galaxy can create after cyclonic merging of two spiral galaxies (galaxy cannibalism). huge gravitation of the giant elliptical galaxy M87 could cannibalize dwarf and giant spiral neighbor galaxies later. "Neighbor" ellipse galaxy M87 has quasar inside and gives birth fiery “small” proto-galaxies nebula-nucleuses. We can see vividly erupted proto-galaxy masses from core of M87. “Small” proto-galaxies nebula-nucleuses are creating dwarf galaxies. After eruption from quasar proto-galactic mass has enormous temperature, hundreds of millions degrees. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap040616.html http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap041211.html Evolution stages of galaxy formation: 1. Axial hit between galaxies 2. Extension stage. Erupted proto-galactic masses moving through space begin extending. 3. Compression stage. Extended thick proto-galactic plasmatic masses begin compressing. There is forming ultra dense nucleus (UDN) inside, by huge gravitation of thick proto-galactic plasmatic masses. There are demolishing everything to the level of protons and neutrons within UDN. Formation working core and shell (Super-massive parent star of a galaxy). At the end of compression, enormous star-like body is formed. It can has mass of millions or billions of times bigger mass of our Sun. 4. New galaxy formation after powerful eruptions from poles of parent star. a) dwarf and giant spiral galaxies. After powerful eruptions from poles of parent star are forming spiral galaxies. Of course size of future spiral galaxy is closely connected to the size of its parent star. a) Small parent star creates globular cluster. (there is eruption all over the surface of small parent star) b) Average sized parent star creates small spiral galaxies. (There is eruption from magnetic poles and formation two branches). c) Super-massive parent star creates giant spiral galaxies. (There is eruption from magnetic poles and formation two branches too). Note. dwarf galaxies are ejected in the inter-galactic space. They are very different small conglomeration of stars. After powerful eruptions from magnetic poles; size, eruption process and gravitation of parent star permanently is decreasing. because it can loss small parts to the end of a branches. dwarf galaxies are ejected in the inter-galactic space by Quasars too. We can see proto-galactic fiery masses on the radio map of M87 ejected from quasar. They can create globular clusters mainly. Elliptical galaxy M87 is a type of galaxy that looks much different than our own Milky Way Galaxy. Even for an elliptical galaxy, though, M87 is peculiar. M87 is much bigger than an average galaxy, appears near the center of a whole cluster of galaxies known as the Virgo Cluster, and shows an unusually high number of globular clusters. These globular clusters are visible as faint spots surrounding the bright center of M87. In general, elliptical galaxies contain similar numbers of stars as spiral galaxies, but are ellipsoidal in shape (spirals are mostly flat), have no spiral structure, and little gas and dust. The above image of M87 was taken recently by the Canada-France-Hawaii Telescope on top of the dormant volcano Mauna Kea in Hawaii, USA. usually dwarf neighbors galaxies can cannibalized by giant spiral or elliptical galaxies. At the end of the XX century scientific technical progress enabled us to follow such a strange process as the birth of the proto-galaxies masses. space event in the 3C438 is one of the evidences of recycling and renewing in the universe. http://chandra.harvard.edu/photo/2007/3c438/3c438_radio.jpg We can see extended proto-galactic plasma clouds of different size. Galaxy M87 has the active small quasar inside. From its one of the magnetic poles is the process of permanent eruption still. Radio astronomy enabled us to look into the center of Galaxy M87. We have proved formation of galactic stars by super-massive parent star http://www.cosmogeology.ge/chapter-28.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaynos Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 You seem to have a serious lack of maths in here... My understanding was that galaxys where formed by a non-uniform mass distribution after the universe cooled enough for proper particles (nucleons) to form? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K. Margiani Posted February 22, 2008 Author Share Posted February 22, 2008 I have observational confirmations and it is truth. Hubble's theory is wrong. Universe has no age! Universe has no origin! Universe has no borders! There are recycling and renewing! I have observational confirmations. http://www.scienceforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=30742 The link can help you to understand truth. The next link can help you to understand many secrets of the universe. http://www.cosmogeology.ge/chapter-9.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaynos Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Oh dear, oh dear. Are we really here again? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, you have provided NONE, so you are wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K. Margiani Posted February 23, 2008 Author Share Posted February 23, 2008 BB-The dead universe theory I’ve tired to discuss BB-The dead universe theory. We’ve discovered very many recycling and renewing processes. Galaxies chaotically moving in the universe, creating conglomerations by own huge gravitations. Galaxies have different direction in the conglomerations and this is reason hit and destroy or formation giant elliptical galaxies. There are old red stars only within elliptical galaxies. Elliptical galaxies are formed after cyclonic merging. Merging two old spiral galaxies are reason of quasars formation inside. http://www.cosmogeology.ge/chapter-9.htm 1. Universe has no borders 2. Universe has no age 3. Universe has no origin. 4. Distribution galaxies are chaotically. 5. Distribution quasars are chaotically 6. Movement galaxies are very different (evidence is merging) 7. Main source of transfer energy in the universe is quasar. 8. Main recycling source in the renewable universe are hit between galaxies, quasars, black holes and stars. We can see Recycling and renewing processes. There are a lot of evidences. Quantum tiredness theory is true. Quantum tiredness ( redshift ) help us to understand distance to the galaxies. Approximately age of solar system is 5,000,000,000 years and there no dispute… We’ve proved. http://www.cosmogeology.ge/chapter-28.htm The Link is strong evidence of my theory, Theory of renewable universe. note: main source of energy transfer in the universe is quasar and main recycling sources are hit between galaxies, quasars, stars and black holes If there would be even only one gigantic explosion, every galaxy would be moving without resistance through the universe after explosion. The universe would grow in volume little by little, galaxies would not be come into collision with each other and quasars wouldn’t be created. If the theory of Hubble is right, scientists couldn’t be able to see any quasars and galaxies conglomerates with their powerful telescopes. We would not be found the “Galaxy cannibalisms”, galaxies merging in the universe and we could have seen only red-shifts in the nearest galaxies' spectrums. We would not be discovering M-87 and similar centers of huge explosions. Result of the only one gigantic explosion would be cause to grow old all of the galaxies little by little. Every star would explode little by little, when they would exhaust their energy resources. Finish of the Hubble’s theory is night sky without stars. After for milliards of years evolution whole universe would grow old little by little, galaxies would not be destroyed and stop its existence. Only the black holes, black interstellar clouds formed from the collapsed stars, and the night sky without stars would be left (DEAD UNIVERSE!!!). Hubble’s theory can not explain elementary cosmic phenomena; about future merging of Andromeda and our galaxies. Andromeda doesn’t have red-shift in its spectrum, why??? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andromeda-Milky_Way_collision http://www.news.utoronto.ca/bin/000414b.asp My theory is the theory of renewable universe. Hubble’s theory is Theory of dead universe. The Milky Way and the Andromeda galaxy will likely fall together and merge within a few billion years.К In this speculative simulation, the two galaxies flyby one another, exciting tidal tails and bridges and collide on a second pass finally merging after several convulsions.К The last remnants of the smashed spirals show up as shells and ripples surrounding a newborn elliptical galaxy. Video. http://www.galaxydynamics.org/spiral_metamorphosis.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaynos Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I would like to refer to my previous post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foodchain Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I have the same idea just for different reasons. I also lack any proof I guess. I derive my idea from the simple concept that energy cannot be created or destroyed yet, at least not by people or even in theory I think really. I mean if you cant create or destroy something that I think makes it a permanent and lasting fixture. I also wonder about the supposed idea of heat death. I think as the universe changes in time for whatever reason such as cooling that it can of course change form. So in the passing of time well into the future who knows what the universe will do really, I mean that word pretty much covers everything and every possibility that can physically exist right? So if energy can only change form what does that mean? What is the limit to form for the universe and how the heck would you even investigate that? Quantum mechanics, I don’t think so, not in this life time at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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